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Re: Gothic Fairy Tale theme, what do you think?
« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2012, 11:43:58 PM »

I think its a tired, boring and unoriginal idea. It's an anime convention, I would expect anime themes, not lowering the bar to satisfy a pop-culture fashion statement.
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I don't believe that we're lowering the bar - We pick our themes to be fun while capturing the spirit of FanimeCon.

What is the spirit of FanimeCon?

I don't know if there's any fun to be found in grim and stoic at an anime convention, but hey, you guys run the show. I just pay to stand in line for 6 hours. Lol.

Everyone has their own tastes, personally I like this one, but there is always fun to be found. I mean. Certain panels run every year and they sometimes have nothing to do with the theme, neither do the GoH, neither does the AA, neither does the Dealers Hall, and neither do a lot of things. In eight years of attendance here I think I have rarely ever gone out of my way to match a theme.

I am curious though because I want to know what you think a good anime theme would be in your opinion?

Just off the top of my head, I'd say a throwback to 80's style anime (all genres). I think it would be interesting to see today's younger anime fans work with this kind of official theme. Not only would this be closer to what I believe Fanime has been about (at least intended to start with), but may serve as an educational experience for the new age anime fans. It could also be a bridge for both old and young anime fans to share a common theme together--something they can all get into, rather than the alternative which I believe would be limited to a small niche.

I could agree with that being a pretty awesome theme! It would always be nice to have a little bit of a throwback to some older anime from my childhood. They do have the old style anime video room which I love and it would be nice if one year we could have just a big trip down memory lane. I think it would be a lot of fun. I would kind of like a "mech" year sometime simply because those are my favorite types of anime and manga.

Just to chime real quick in, I am actually really interested in making some original cosplays this year based on the theme.

I think there is a fair bit of interest overall in this theme and I really do think that with a lot of direction some amazing events can be planned for this year! I have hope!

I do think a return to some old school anime or focus on a specific genre, or etc, would be totally amazing too. Just my thought!

What I'd personally like is a theme based on re-visualizing classic anime. It would be interesting to see a contemporary look at cosplays based on older anime updated by the fans and recognized as such. But no, I'm just gonna get Nightwish and The Crow next year. LOL. :p
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Re: Gothic Fairy Tale theme, what do you think?
« Reply #21 on: June 02, 2012, 06:45:12 PM »

I think its a tired, boring and unoriginal idea. It's an anime convention, I would expect anime themes, not lowering the bar to satisfy a pop-culture fashion statement.
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I don't believe that we're lowering the bar - We pick our themes to be fun while capturing the spirit of FanimeCon.

I actually really like this idea. I mean. When I first read it I thought of all the original costumes I could make for the cast of FairyTail. I'm excited. There is so much possibility for this. (Just to be clear - It is Gothic Fairy Tale Theme?)

This might be interesting, after all.  There are some anime out there that have similar story lines to fairy tales, and anime that borrow fairy tale themes (Ponyo; Ookami-san to Shichinin no Nakamatachi; and Pretear has been compared to Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs).

EDIT:  almost forgot Folktales from Japan.
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Re: Gothic Fairy Tale theme, what do you think?
« Reply #22 on: June 02, 2012, 10:47:59 PM »

My ideas:
Gothic Papa Bear from "Goldilocks and the Three Bears"
Gothic Beanstalk from "Jack and the Beanstalk"
Gothic Pig who built House of Bricks from "Three Little Pigs"

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Re: Gothic Fairy Tale theme, what do you think?
« Reply #23 on: June 04, 2012, 01:06:55 AM »

well guys rest assured you WILL get Gothic My Little Ponies version there! Raver Goth versions or straight up emo Gothic Ponies haha
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Re: Gothic Fairy Tale theme, what do you think?
« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2012, 09:05:59 PM »

Totally doing Godchild cosplay.
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Re: Gothic Fairy Tale theme, what do you think?
« Reply #25 on: June 25, 2012, 12:50:45 PM »

I think its a tired, boring and unoriginal idea. It's an anime convention, I would expect anime themes, not lowering the bar to satisfy a pop-culture fashion statement.
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I don't believe that we're lowering the bar - We pick our themes to be fun while capturing the spirit of FanimeCon.

What is the spirit of FanimeCon?

I don't know if there's any fun to be found in grim and stoic at an anime convention, but hey, you guys run the show. I just pay to stand in line for 6 hours. Lol.

Everyone has their own tastes, personally I like this one, but there is always fun to be found. I mean. Certain panels run every year and they sometimes have nothing to do with the theme, neither do the GoH, neither does the AA, neither does the Dealers Hall, and neither do a lot of things. In eight years of attendance here I think I have rarely ever gone out of my way to match a theme.

I am curious though because I want to know what you think a good anime theme would be in your opinion?

Just off the top of my head, I'd say a throwback to 80's style anime (all genres). I think it would be interesting to see today's younger anime fans work with this kind of official theme. Not only would this be closer to what I believe Fanime has been about (at least intended to start with), but may serve as an educational experience for the new age anime fans. It could also be a bridge for both old and young anime fans to share a common theme together--something they can all get into, rather than the alternative which I believe would be limited to a small niche.

I could agree with that being a pretty awesome theme! It would always be nice to have a little bit of a throwback to some older anime from my childhood. They do have the old style anime video room which I love and it would be nice if one year we could have just a big trip down memory lane. I think it would be a lot of fun. I would kind of like a "mech" year sometime simply because those are my favorite types of anime and manga.

Just to chime real quick in, I am actually really interested in making some original cosplays this year based on the theme.

I think there is a fair bit of interest overall in this theme and I really do think that with a lot of direction some amazing events can be planned for this year! I have hope!

I do think a return to some old school anime or focus on a specific genre, or etc, would be totally amazing too. Just my thought!

What I'd personally like is a theme based on re-visualizing classic anime. It would be interesting to see a contemporary look at cosplays based on older anime updated by the fans and recognized as such. But no, I'm just gonna get Nightwish and The Crow next year. LOL. :p

I find it interesting that the examples you use in your argument against a gothic fairytale theme are not gothic fairytale themed.  So your assumption is that people will be just as confused on what that means as you are?  You name a powermetal band (not gothic in the least) and a action movie from the 90's.  I think people have already cited plenty of relevent sources on how it relates to anime, and it certainly fits an anime con as much as "sports" or "steam punk".
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Re: Gothic Fairy Tale theme, what do you think?
« Reply #26 on: June 25, 2012, 01:09:51 PM »

I don't understand why we're having this discussion, there are PLENTY of Gothic themed manga out there.
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Re: Gothic Fairy Tale theme, what do you think?
« Reply #27 on: June 29, 2012, 01:33:00 AM »

FYI everyone,

gothic ≠ gothic fairy tale

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Re: Gothic Fairy Tale theme, what do you think?
« Reply #28 on: June 29, 2012, 10:03:30 AM »

I don't think there will be any more or any less in the way of teenagers caking on makeup and throwing on random clothes from their closet just because the official theme is gothic fairy tale.  ;) If you don't already see plenty of that at Fanime, then you clearly aren't looking very hard, and if what other people choose to wear bothers you so much, then either choose not to let it bother you, or don't come. If you don't like the theme for yourself, then don't participate. It really isn't that difficult, especially since most people don't participate in the themes, anyway.



Personally, I think it is a neat theme and has just as much to do with anime as anything else chosen as a theme. Anything too specific would probably shut out a lot of people who don't like whatever genre or era or other specifically anime-related thing that is chosen as the theme, so something like this works, since it encompasses people of all interests. For example, I'm not really much at all of an anime fan, but I like video games and I wear lolita fashion. Now, if I didn't have any cosplay ideas to incorporate the theme and I wanted to participate, I could wear a themed lolita outfit. If I were just into video games, I could probably come up with something similar to a fairy tale and cosplay from that, or make it more gothic, or something. Of course, I probably won't participate in the theme this year (since I never do, and I have far too many cosplay plans to change them just to have something that fits the theme), but if I wanted to, I could tailor it to my interests, since it is something that goes across genres and media. I think that a good theme does just that. Of course, specifically "gothic" fairy tales could be a bit narrow of a focus, but people not into the gothic side of it would probably just drop that and make it about fairy tales. I see the "fairy tales" part as more important than the "gothic" part, anyway. Expect to see even more Disney cosplay than usual.

Anime conventions that focus just on anime are too narrow to be sustainable these days, I think, especially with one as large as Fanime. You don't want to alienate people who are fans of different aspects of nerddom, since cons tend to encompass all sorts of people with all sorts of interests. Maybe that's just me, though, the non-anime fan, talking.  ;)



Though, I think that there needs to be more awareness of the theme if it is really meant to be used. Maybe even panels each year on "[insert theme] in Anime" (such as "The Gothic and Anime" [which can focus on not only gothic as we use it nowdays, but also as a literary style] or "Fairy Tale and Mythologial Themes in Anime" ...both of which I would probably attend, but I'd attend the gothic one for sure, as long as it talked about gothic as a litereary style!), or otherwise themed events?


Hmm~ I said that I wouldn't change my cosplay plans for the theme, but I've been planning on cosplaying from Deathsmiles for a while now. Maybe I can get a group together for the theme gathering this year? It seems to fit well enough.
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Re: Gothic Fairy Tale theme, what do you think?
« Reply #29 on: June 29, 2012, 08:56:26 PM »

I don't particularly care what the theme is, but if there's a theme, Fanime should really start doing some things geared towards that theme. This year was supposed to be sports, but the only thing sporty about it were the pictures on the badges. There were no sports related activities planned, no guests who do sport anime/manga, not even special showings of sports related entertainment. It would seem to me that if you're going to do a theme, then you theme the con around that theme, otherwise it's not really a theme. It's just a topic you put out there to represent the con. If we're going to have a gothic fairy tale theme for Fanime, then Fanime should try and do some gothic fairy tale stuff, like say, maybe inviting some artists who do that kind of art or having a gothic lolita fashion show with a fairy tale theme or even inviting a vis kei band to come play. It just seems weird to have a theme and do nothing at all with it.
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Re: Gothic Fairy Tale theme, what do you think?
« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2013, 02:15:33 AM »

I'm kinda looking forward to it. I really love dressing like a Gothic Lolita, and as to seeing what new cosplay will be inspired. Honestly though hardly anyone matches the theme. If they do then it's unintentional or they liked the concept (rarely)
I think 2013 will be like all the other years: Cosplay as whatever they want or have available lol
There is a lot of Gothic fairytale anime . Also its up to the individual to as how they describe "Gothic" or "fairytale".

Hitting on an old topic:
Having older anime themes? I think that would be tricky especially here in America. People in my age group would think Sailor Moon or Dragon Ball was old. The generation now thinks that Naruto, Bleach, and One Piece (The Big Three) are getting old. That is sad O_O
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