has any one lived on the streets during Fanime because they didnt get a Hotel?

[Jerry]

just be glad u didnt nod off in the hentai rooms.

those are some pretty weird and random stories i tell ya.  :P

[Nyxyin]

I end up falling asleep sitting up too.  I don't mean to, and I do have a car to drive home in, but some anime just ends up putting me to sleep before I realize it even if I wasn't sleepy at all before the anime started, and once that happens, it often leaves me too drowsy to make it home.  So, a few times, I ended up having to nap in my car before driving home.

[Jerry]

just dont drive sleepy PLEASE.  :-[

ive had a few friends who had a close calls (myself included), and i did have my sisters friend of a friend crash into a gas tanker and unfortunately the person didnt make it.  :'(

if ur in a parking structure i wouldnt recommend it because of all the carbon monoxide. so again rest in safe areas (and if at all legal areas) please!

[Trumby]

Because to an otaku, anime and manga is his food. Every dollar must be spent in the dealer's room.

This is called being stupid, not an otaku. Idiots like this give otaku a bad name... rather... an even WORSE name.

Yeah..I pretty much have to agree with you on that. Out of the 8 cons I have been to I've only spent money in the dealer's room...twice I believe. And once was just for some Ramune <.<

I'm in agreement with pretty much everyone in this thread. My first con was the only con I didn't stay at the hotel..and that was because I couldn't afford to at the time. So I just took public transit (took me about an hour) to and from.

[QuacoreZX]

Staff and security won't let you sleep ANYWHERE (including the video rooms), so if you intend on doing this...pretty much don't.  If you don't have a choice, make a quick buddy who has one while you're there who might be generous, or find yourself an alley or corner somewhere outside the hotel or you can bet you won't find more than a wink of sleep.

[zoupzuop2]

yeah, man seriously... screw poor people, right? I mean anime is, after all, the privilege of the rich.  Affordable? Heck no! The purpose of Fanime is to purposefully exclude poor people...

all that is sarcasm... ive been going to the con for a while now, and this is the first year I can actually afford a room nearby.  I think its a shame that people cant afford to get a room at the con, especially those who come from poor backgrounds.  I have a job now, but back in the day, money was tight, and asking my family for money for this DEFINITELY wasnt justified.  As a teenager, money was tight, even when I had an income.

Frankly, without a hotel room nearby, the convention experience just isnt the same. if you have to drive back home, then you miss a good bit of the programming.  if you have a room nearby, you can have 90% of the con experience, if you so choose.

i never slept on the streets, but i didn't have a hotel room either, and i always felt as though i missed out at least a little bit.  Why? because I was poor.

HOLY CRAP, WHY HAVE I NOT REALIZED THIS BEFORE... I totally agree now. Why stop at anime though. Poor people should be allowed fine food whenever they want... FOR FREE. Sports cars, movies, concerts, travel, WHY SHOULD ONLY RICH PEOPLE GET THESE LUXURIES?!?!??!?! Poor people should get them too. I'm totally with you man.

all that is sarcasm... ive been going to the con for a while now, and back when I couldn't afford a room, I found friend's to stay with, I saved up, or I didn't go. My parents haven't supported me since I was 16, and asking my family for money for this DEFINIELY wasnt justified.

What's your god damned point? It's a convention, it's a LUXURY... LUXURIES ARE NOT NECESSITIES, AND IF YOU CANNOT AFFORD A LUXURY YOU DON'T DESERVE SAID LUXURY. If you can't afford said luxury and you still go, then you are STUPID and CANNOT MANAGE MONEY, SO IT'S NO WONDER THAT YOU CAN'T AFFORD SAID EVENT.

You're right, cons are different than when you have a hotel room, and spending money. Life is different, when you have a home to sleep in and spending money, then when you don't.

Um... that actually makes perfect sense. Pyron's right-- conventions are for FUN, like a trip to Disneyland; if you can't afford to go, you probably shouldn't go. (Except Disneyland is ungodly expensive; Fanime, a bit more price-friendly. In nearly EVERY sense.)

For those of us that live in towns closeby, I recommend doing what I'm doing: Either drive there and back, bus there and back, or a combination of both (I may only drive to Fanime one or two days of the con). Great Con fun, but without the awkward sounds of the fanboys next door that decided to whip out the new hentai vid they just bought for $3. Or, similar results from previous, similar-minded patrons who were there just before you.

[FanFicGuru]

Staff and security won't let you sleep ANYWHERE (including the video rooms), so if you intend on doing this...pretty much don't.  If you don't have a choice, make a quick buddy who has one while you're there who might be generous, or find yourself an alley or corner somewhere outside the hotel or you can bet you won't find more than a wink of sleep.

Bad idea. Instead of rovers, have fun dealing with the Police.

Really people, it's not that difficult to understand: If you don't have the money to stay in a hotel, don't plan on sleeping on the streets, in the convention center, or anywhere else besides your home or wherever you made lodging arrangements. This isn't rocket science.

Someone PLEASE lock this thread already.

[Zog]

No sleeping.  Anywhere, ever.

Sleep is for the weak.

NoDoz is for the strong.

[Kyokun]

Staff and security won't let you sleep ANYWHERE (including the video rooms), so if you intend on doing this...pretty much don't.  If you don't have a choice, make a quick buddy who has one while you're there who might be generous, or find yourself an alley or corner somewhere outside the hotel or you can bet you won't find more than a wink of sleep.

What kind of terrible suggestion is that?  That's just asking to get mugged, attacked, robbed, etc.  If you don't have a place to sleep... go home, or don't come at all (or don't sleep, but that's not really a good idea--1) you'll probably be more than a little crazy at the end, and 2) you won't have bathed either, so nobody will want to be near you).

For the love of god, do not go sleep outside on the streets.

[Lazarathe]

Hmm, only time i can recall "living on the streets" was at AX one year, and even then, i managed to make some friends during the con and stayed in their room for a night or 2. The other nights, well, i slept in my car in the parking garage for a few hours then went back out. Better than sleeping the dealer halls/convention/streets, at least i wasnt in anyones way.

[darkstar]

Ah, er.... geez. I've heard of people sleeping in the lobby...? Either way is illegal.

Then you better bring the f-ing police.

(And keep them there for the glomping arguments too...)

Look, last year was completely wrecked because I felt that I had to get a room that I probably would've been escorted to in handcuffs to actually get back to.

I am not going to spend $120/night just to have a room that I will literally need to be forced to use.

I mean, seriously, if I were to attend Fanime this year, I probably would be arrested.  No bones about it.  I've lost basically all respect for anime fandom, and, really, most respect for most of the large cons too.  And this is one of the issues.

You don't want people to sleep in the screening rooms??  Then you can basically end programming at 2 AM, call the police on all sleepers, and/or force people to either get a hotel room (local residents of San Jose excepted) or not come.

Let's just say I almost threw on security after last year.

[darkstar]

Can a moderator or someone please lock this thread? It's rather pointless.

A) If anyone has slept in the convention center or on the streets, purposely coming to fanime without pre-arranged lodging, they acted irresponsibly and have no pity from me or anyone else who budgets their money correctly, up to months in advance, in order to enjoy the privileges of a Hotel stay.

B) Pyron is right. This convention isn't necessary to live. It's an extra expense, a luxury. If you don't have money, you can't afford to come to Fanime. That's not our fault. If you really want to come to fanime, and you are over 16, chances are it wouldn't be too hard to start saving up and get the money needed for registration and your share of a room.

There will always be haves and have-nots. Deal with it.

Please, lock this thread up. Thanks.

Then there should be a forced declaration of where you're staying for the con.  No room?  No con.

Let's just say that, without sleeping in the screening rooms and the like, I probably couldn't have afforded the last four Fanimes I attended, and certainly won't afford this one, so I'm openly going to try to get banned from Fanime before the con takes place.

[Chun]

Ah, er.... geez. I've heard of people sleeping in the lobby...? Either way is illegal.

Then you better bring the f-ing police.

(And keep them there for the glomping arguments too...)

Look, last year was completely wrecked because I felt that I had to get a room that I probably would've been escorted to in handcuffs to actually get back to.

I am not going to spend $120/night just to have a room that I will literally need to be forced to use.

I mean, seriously, if I were to attend Fanime this year, I probably would be arrested.  No bones about it.  I've lost basically all respect for anime fandom, and, really, most respect for most of the large cons too.  And this is one of the issues.

You don't want people to sleep in the screening rooms??  Then you can basically end programming at 2 AM, call the police on all sleepers, and/or force people to either get a hotel room (local residents of San Jose excepted) or not come.

Let's just say I almost threw on security after last year.

...and the point of you lashing toward Jun is because...

...no particular reason.

Also the fact that there's nothing about the reasoning for your belief in this "handcuff" possibility;

I don't understand why your post is enamored with rage simply because you (I assume, because really, this post seems quite out of place) bought a room and had a run-in with staff.

Then you begin to throw an opinion about anime fandom when it's not necessary.

People that attend Fanime should be responsible for their own health, not curfewed, if that's what you're pushing.

Yes, people are not allowed to fall asleep in viewing rooms. They're not Big Brother, you know when you're tired, it's time to go back to whatever you bought/stay in.

Really, I still don't get why you posted this. Really puzzling.

EDIT: Saw this post.

Ah, I understand now, you expected a room WITH your badge when you registered, like how you attend Science Camp in elementary school with pocket change to go buy candy (Your badge is candy!). That somewhat clears it up.

Let's just say that, without sleeping in the screening rooms and the like, I probably couldn't have afforded the last four Fanimes I attended, and certainly won't afford this one, so I'm openly going to try to get banned from Fanime before the con takes place.

Oh, this makes it very clear.

You're just an idiot.

Problem solved.

Requesting the immediate locking of this monstrosity of a thread.

~Chun

[Jun-Watarase]

Darkstar, what... in god's name are you trying to say? I honestly don't see the point of your post. Are you just being butthurt and bawwwing over the fact that people are against those who decide to sleep in the convention center just to attend the con? Doing so isn't also just pathetic, but it's against the law to do so, especially on private property. People shouldn't do it. Getting a hotel room is perfectly logical, and the way you're describing your reasons against doing so are pretty much the reasons to get a hotel room in the first place. It's a place to put your stuff and sleep while you're travelling somewhere. That's what people pay the hotel for. That's why the hotel is there. Make sense?

As Pyron had said, going to an anime convention is a privilege, not a right. If you can't budget your money to go responsibly, you shouldn't at all. Why does this not make sense? Augh, I second Chun's motion of "You're an idiot" and locking this thread before more pointless banter ensues. gg

[otakuapprentice]

i think this argument/discussion was already walked through; re-treading it still brings about the same response. Jun and Chun have both given good responses, and i await Mikey's post as well.

still.....

Darkstar: im going to assume that you are one of those people that doesn't want to miss a single smeggin' minute of the con.

Too bad, you gonna miss some of the con anyways.

How about this: instead of trying to boast about how you're going to get yourself banned from fanime, how about this: JUST DON'T GO! save yourself and everyone else the trouble and keep your whiny ass home.

[Jun-Watarase]

i think this argument/discussion was already walked through; re-treading it still brings about the same response. Jun and Chun have both given good responses, and i await Mikey's post as well.

I don't know if Mikey's going to even bother with this one, unless he plans on just scolding what an idiot this guy is. There's no point in posting on this thread any further; everything that needed to be said has been. It'll be a while until the OP or a mod notices and locks this thread, methinks.

Tony has forsaken us. XD

[havok rt]

No sleeping.  Anywhere, ever.

Sleep is for the weak.

NoDoz is for the strong.

what he said. also sleeping with your eyes open FTW!!!

[Moonblossom]

As much as I hate to flog a dead horse, otakuapprentice, what in the Sam Hill are you smoking? If you're so disenchanted with Fanime/otaku culture/whatthefuckever just don't fucking go. How complicated is that?

Hell, most "otaku" annoy the crap out of me too, but there are still a lot of really awesome people at Fanime, friends I haven't seen in ages, and even just the opportunity to take a vacation and get the hell away from work (despite the fact that I love my job).

If you feel the need to forcibly be banned to prevent yourself from attending an event you seemingly don't WANT to attend, you've got some issues that seriously need to be worked out...

[Jun-Watarase]

As much as I hate to flog a dead horse, otakuapprentice, what in the Sam Hill are you smoking?

Lol. Are you... addressing the right person...?

[Glitch]

Just ignore darkstar. This idiot pops up once in a while just to complain about hotels and how the con should shut down at night. All because he's to much of a retard to plan ahead. I wouldn't be surprised if it happened again in the future.
And I think Pyron already scolded him, except the douche had posted under a different name.