I don't know why but I felt like this year was very bland or not interesting. Who else agrees?
I mean, there were still nice cosplays and stuff, but aside from that I have not seen much new and interesting things.
- I saw more cheap cosplayers than good cosplayers. I think the only good cosplayers were the Teen Titan ones and this other Black Rock Shooter girl.
- Too much Gothic Lolita cosplayers instead of actual anime cosplayers
- The Black & White Ball's music this year was sorta crappy, and not even loud enough for an energetic dance.
- FAnimeCon 2010 seemed so empty compared to last year too. I have a feeling last year had twice as much people as this year, and a lot more cosplayers who were very good as well.
I dunno, it seemed kinda disappointing to me this year as I found nothing much to be surprising. anyone else feel this way?
I kinda felt the same way actually. It was still a lot of fun but most of my fun rooted from hanging out with friends from out of town and going on miscellaneous spontaneous adventures.
I'm going to have to agree with you on the lolitas and cosplayers. There was an event at the fairmont for the lolitas though, so that would explain all of them.
I honestly think it's just about the people you go with.
*nod nod* Yes I did seem rather bland, not sure why it's just a feeling, like a vibe of blandness that was radiating form this year.I think part of it was also they were a little more strict and controlling this year (Rovers), when you can't have fun and do interesting things then you feel controlled... no one should feel controlled at a con. Maybe it's just me.
To me it felt like there were less cosplayers this yeah and that alot of people's cosplays were repeats from many previous years.
I think overall it was a great con.
Maybe the perception of cosplaying had a part in the con feeling 'meh' to people?
For me this con was better than last year. Between all the musicfest concerts, Momoi quest, gaming in the game room, panels, and videos I was very satisfied. It all depends on what you are there for I guess.
I personally saw less lolita cosplays than previous years (been going since the con moved to the San Jose convention center). Anyways lolita is firmly in the otaku and anime culture so saying it doesn't belong at Fanime is a bit off the mark in my opinion. Fanime has a lolita fashion show and there are lolita dealers in the dealers hall. I mean what about the storm troopers? Or the Ewok? Or the Firefly cosplays? Or the Star Trek cosplays? Or Frank-n-Furter (Rocky Horror)? Or all the video game cosplays? None of them are anime related. For the record Japanese cosplayers cosplay all of the above and much more. Cosplay is not strictly anime. Quoated from wikipedea:
Cosplay (コスプレ, kosupure?), short for "costume play", is type of performance art in which participants don costumes and accessories to represent a specific character or idea. Characters are often drawn from popular fiction in Japan. Favorite sources include manga, anime, tokusatsu, comic books, graphic novels, video games, hentai and fantasy movies. Role play includes portrayals of J-pop and J-rock stars, Taiwanese puppet characters, science fiction characters, characters from musical stories, classic novels, and entertainment software. Any entity from the real or virtual world that lends itself to dramatic interpretation may be taken up as a subject. Inanimate objects are given anthropomorphic forms and it is not unusual to see genders switched, with women playing male roles and vice versa.
Ok sorry, end of rant.
Lolita isn't cosplay, you guys. @____@
Anyway, Fanime isn't just a celebration of anime, it's a celebration of Japanese culture, Japanese fashion included. I don't see what's stopping us from getting together with others who share the same interests in an aspect of Japanese culture at Fanime. Not everyone is there stricly for anime (and not everyone there even likes anime, myself included). Plus, there were a ton of OTT sweet lolitas because of the Fantasies event going on at the Fairmont (lots of other styles as well, but since Angelic Pretty was one of the big draws to Fantasies, a lot of girls chose to wear their style). I did see a lot of... not quite up to par lolitas, should I say, but probably not any more or less of those than last year, either.
Also, you complain about not enough "actual anime cosplayers" but one of the two cosplays you liked all con were from Teen Titans? I don't understand your logic here at all. (Besides that what is considered good cosplay is all a matter of opinion, there were tons of great cosplays out there, blahblahblah)
Now, if you had some concerns that could be addressed (like the B&W Ball music thing), that would probably be more helpful, but otherwise, I think that you are either being too harsh or didn't make the most of your experience, since Fanime is a genreally well-run con and is really what you make of it. If you didn't like the types or qualities of cosplays or amount of people, then maybe go to another con or stop going to cons? You really can't help what the attendees are going to wear or anything like that.
yeah. What she said. I completely disagree with most of the points made. It sounds more like you guys may not have made the best of your time there.
It was all so awesome for me.
This years Fanime wasn't quite as enjoyable to me either, but not to any fault of Fanime itself.
One of my friends was sick the whole weekend, so I was worried about her not getting to enjoy herself.
I sold at the swapmeet on Friday, so I lost alot of exploration time there.
No video game dealer in the Dealers Hall.
Missed Fanboy Bebop again because Anime Hell/Midnight Madness was way too crowded (no free seats).
I felt like there were more Lolita this year, and some of them did seem thrown together last minute. Others were done really well and I enjoyed seeing them. Not too many over the top cosplayers, but still many that were enjoyable and well made.
It's not Fanime's fault that people cosplayed the way they did :/. There were probably many lolitas because of that event in the Fairmont. B&W Ball isn't energetic for a reason. Energetic music is for the rave. You definitely have the right to your opinion, but I don't see the point of this thread. None of these are things the Fanime staff can necessarily change.
EDIT: My bad, read the post wrong :3.
Let me clairfy a bit --
If the con could be improved in some way other than your perception of it (such as: better guests, more panels, staff enforcing rules on obnoxious people, etc.), then that would be fine. I'm all for legitimate and honest critiques of the con and suggestions to improve it, aince I'm sure that we all want a better Fanime next year. However, most of your complaints are things that can't be helped or are based in your perception of the con (what people are wearing, etc.). I don't expect anyone to have fun at a con that is horribly disorganized, has few events, etc. if the con could be run better or could otherwise be changed to improve it just because they are willing to have fun at the con, but if you didn't like a con because of the amount of people and what they wore, that's not really something that can be helped easily and is instead based in what you personally did at the con and how you went about experiencing it. I'm thinking that maybe Fanime isn't the con for you because you have a bigger problem with the people who go there than the con itself (and it's not something like people running around glomping people and destroying property or anything that could be stopped with better staffing) or that maybe cons in general aren't for you because there really isn't anything on your list of complaints that can be fixed except for how you perceive and experience the con. If you enjoy going to cons and there wasn't anything outside of what kinds of cosplays or fashions people wore that was a problem with the con, then you probably would have had fun anyway, despite what you consider to be the poor-quality costumes.
I don't even like anime and I -still- enjoy Fanime quite a bit. As a cosplayer myself, I always find it amazing what people can do, and for the ones in less-than-stellar costumes, I still want them to feel encouraged to keep improving, since everyone has to start somewhere (and who knows, they may end up being that person next year with the totally amazing costume that blows everyone away).
As long as you have fun, that's what matters, but keep in mind that you have to be willing to have fun because you can have fun~
First of all I wasn't blaming the people or the staff, I was just clearly saying that this year was a bit disappointing because [insert reason here].
I wasn't suggesting that Fanime had to change, improve, or change any kind of law.
I wasn't protesting or criticizing.
you get my point right?
I think that people can wear whatever the heck they want, but sorry it didn't please you. If someone dresses as a lolita, that's great. Even if they aren't GREAT at lolita... What they are wearing makes them feel good/pretty, so you need to lay off. I think one of the greatest parts of fanime is that people can be who they want to be. Sorry it brought down your fanime experience.... And I thought I saw a ton of great cosplayers!
Oh wow, I was actually thinking that it keeps getting better each year.
I went to more panels than any previous year, and there always seemed to be something good that I hadn't seen before playing in a video room between the ones I wanted to attend (thank you, Nostalgia Room!). I fell in love with the Artist Alley this year as well. My only "complaints" were that some dealer booths I was looking for weren't here this year, and that I missed out on Evangelion 2.22 on Monday cause I was dead tired and they changed it from 8am to 10am.
I was talking to one of my in-staff friends in the Arcade room during the wee hours on either Saturday or Sunday (sleepless nights sort of blur together) and he was even more enthusiastic about it than me.
Dunno what to say about the 'aura of blandess' mentioned, but I'm of the opinion that if you managed to get bored during Fanime, chances are it's because you're a boring person.
Ha this thread is becoming lulz from people not understand how it is just his personal feeling and he's not trying to criticize the con at all.
I think he was just voicing what he felt and making conversation lol.
but yeah continue the lulzy butthurt ::)
I think it's because they've banned the "hug lines" and the "dance lines" this year. The hallway that is between the Game Room and the Hilton seemed empty to me. Don't get me wrong, I understand the perspective of why people complained about it the previous years, but it seems like a "anime convention" tradition that shouldn't be taken away. Maybe have a section of the center dedicated for the hug-liners that can be overlooked by Rovers for safety? I don't know, I don't want to start an argument, cause I'm sure there's a solution out there that can satisfy both sides, just don't try to figure it out in this thread.
Anyway, to give a positive look, the fun you have is what you make of it. Don't try to expect Fanime to be perfect every year because there's going to be times where it's the best Fanime, and there's going to be times where it might not. Even though I share the same thought that "It felt odd, compared to last year.", I've had fun. It was my second year attending, first year cosplaying. There was stuff from last year that I've improved on this year. Ironically, I've participated in less events this year. I didn't go to Masquerade, Concerts, etc. I'm planning to go to them next year. Fortunately, I've got to shop more, watch Anime Hell, and see Stage Zero once again (Loved watching the SFIV voice of Ken kicking people's butts). But the majority of the time I was spending it with my friends since it's one of the last times we're going to see each other since we're graduating. I had fun and at the same time I've had a good amount of time spent at Fanime.
Just like last year, I've had withdrawal systems where I got depressed and didn't want to leave. I've got over it, but that's a sign that Fanime was good.
ugh forreal tho... like the con is filled with the 'freakers' while OUTSIDE of the con is filled with the actual cosplayers.
not tryna offend anyone or anything but yeah. Alot looked amazing, some looked WOAH, and some look really out there.
plus the halls were a bit crowded and people really stop in the middle and make traffic to take pics... omg really tho? really?
/pet peeve
I think I failed because my cosplay sucked.
that and it really is about who you hang out with and how you make the most of any given situation.
otherwise "your just doing it wrong" besides, there always next year.
some years are just honestly better or worse than others--- to each is own. :P
Quote from: Kertus on June 01, 2010, 07:48:29 PM
Ha this thread is becoming lulz from people not understand how it is just his personal feeling and he's not trying to criticize the con at all.
I think he was just voicing what he felt and making conversation lol.
but yeah continue the lulzy butthurt ::)
I'm not butthurt or anything, I think that I just don't understand his point. :/
Quote from: chococlatte on June 01, 2010, 03:25:26 PM
I'm going to have to agree with you on the lolitas and cosplayers. There was an event at the fairmont for the lolitas though, so that would explain all of them.
I honestly think it's just about the people you go with.
Yes yes.. so so MANY lolitas.. some were.. unfortunately (no offense to those who dressed as lolitas) not very detailed to even be called a "Lolita."
I agree: It does depend on the people you go with, & how many times you've possibly been at Fanime.
Nevertheless.. I had fun. =3=
Quote from: Jerry on June 01, 2010, 10:06:53 PM
I think I failed because my cosplay sucked.
You funny. You had the most excellent cosplay this year!
Quote from: Kupo on June 01, 2010, 09:17:23 PM
I think it's because they've banned the "hug lines" and the "dance lines" this year. The hallway that is between the Game Room and the Hilton seemed empty to me. Don't get me wrong, I understand the perspective of why people complained about it the previous years, but it seems like a "anime convention" tradition that shouldn't be taken away. Maybe have a section of the center dedicated for the hug-liners that can be overlooked by Rovers for safety? I don't know, I don't want to start an argument, cause I'm sure there's a solution out there that can satisfy both sides, just don't try to figure it out in this thread.
Anyway, to give a positive look, the fun you have is what you make of it. Don't try to expect Fanime to be perfect every year because there's going to be times where it's the best Fanime, and there's going to be times where it might not. Even though I share the same thought that "It felt odd, compared to last year.", I've had fun. It was my second year attending, first year cosplaying. There was stuff from last year that I've improved on this year. Ironically, I've participated in less events this year. I didn't go to Masquerade, Concerts, etc. I'm planning to go to them next year. Fortunately, I've got to shop more, watch Anime Hell, and see Stage Zero once again (Loved watching the SFIV voice of Ken kicking people's butts). But the majority of the time I was spending it with my friends since it's one of the last times we're going to see each other since we're graduating. I had fun and at the same time I've had a good amount of time spent at Fanime.
Just like last year, I've had withdrawal systems where I got depressed and didn't want to leave. I've got over it, but that's a sign that Fanime was good.
YESSSS!!!!!!!! THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I THINK!)&$*)@&$*@_#_R why would you destroy the hug line D: i just noticed how much of an impact it does to fanime. I think it opens people up, like last year i was all quiet but i went through the hug line and got me pumped up! it got people to dance and do the things that they do at fanime! sorry its just an opinion. sorry if i offend anyone. I started one this year but got messed up by rovers...
I agree. I had a few bad moments this year but past those it just fell a little empty compared to last year. Still I can't say it was not fun.
Quote from: Nina Star 9 on June 01, 2010, 04:51:47 PM
Lolita isn't cosplay, you guys. @____@
Kind of nick-picking there aren't you? It's basically treated as Cosplay by most. It may not be actual costumes but most people don't where Lolita all day long, they where it for special events to get attention. Or so my observations and personal opinion tell me.
Quote from: MyMidnightAffair on June 01, 2010, 10:15:43 PM
Quote from: chococlatte on June 01, 2010, 03:25:26 PM
I'm going to have to agree with you on the lolitas and cosplayers. There was an event at the fairmont for the lolitas though, so that would explain all of them.
I honestly think it's just about the people you go with.
Yes yes.. so so MANY lolitas.. some were.. unfortunately (no offense to those who dressed as lolitas) not very detailed to even be called a "Lolita."
I agree: It does depend on the people you go with, & how many times you've possibly been at Fanime.
Nevertheless.. I had fun. =3=
Oh gosh, don't even get me started on some of the girls' coordination of outfits. /snaps fingers
Quote from: Jerry on June 01, 2010, 10:06:53 PM
I think I failed because my cosplay sucked.
that and it really is about who you hang out with and how you make the most of any given situation.
otherwise "your just doing it wrong" besides, there always next year.
some years are just honestly better or worse than others--- to each is own. :P
No way Jerry your Cosplay was one of the best and stuck out a lot. I saw you so much this year it was not even funny =P
Quote from: AntiVonn on June 01, 2010, 10:16:38 PM
Quote from: Jerry on June 01, 2010, 10:06:53 PM
I think I failed because my cosplay sucked.
You funny. You had the most excellent cosplay this year!
Seconded. Jerry, you crazy.
Perhaps it's because of the lack of excitement that I was able to relax this year.
What's up with the lolita hate? It was hot, and therefore a lot of lolitas didn't wear over-the-top coordinates. The point for some is to be comfortable walking around for 8 hours a day. Hey, just enjoy watching the others. :P
Quote from: TC_X0_Lt_0X on June 01, 2010, 10:29:35 PM
I agree. I had a few bad moments this year but past those it just fell a little empty compared to last year. Still I can't say it was not fun.
Quote from: Nina Star 9 on June 01, 2010, 04:51:47 PM
Lolita isn't cosplay, you guys. @____@
Kind of nick-picking there aren't you? It's basically treated as Cosplay by most. It may not be actual costumes but most people don't where Lolita all day long, they where it for special events to get attention. Or so my observations and personal opinion tell me.
Uh... you've never seen us in San Francisco, have you? Lolita is worn on a regular basis.
Lolita may be treated like a cosplay, but it isn't. I don't feel like I'm nitpicking by informing people that the fashion I wear on a daily basis isn't a costume, but that could just be me. :/
Though, a lot of people do treat it like a cosplay when they wear it, and those are usually the ones who don't have the best quality outfits or coordinations, but I still hope to encourage them to improve~ Most of us probably started out getting it "wrong."
Quote from: iomoon on June 01, 2010, 10:43:53 PM
What's up with the lolita hate? It was hot, and therefore a lot of lolitas didn't wear over-the-top coordinates. The point for some is to be comfortable walking around for 8 hours a day. Hey, just enjoy watching the others. :P
So true~ The girls wearing Tea Parties and without wigs were probably in the best shape by the end of a day, but I know that I was in heels most of the time and in wigs the rest of the time (I wore a wig Saturday night because I didn't feel like doing my hair, haha) while I was in lolita, which I wore to take a break from uncomfortable cosplays. My feet still hurt from wearing 4" heels all night at the Ball!
Thinking about this thread, I guess I can understand where the OP is coming from, but it shouldn't be phrased in a way where (s)he seems to expect something to be fixed when really there is nothing to fix. It's perfectly understandable to not have fun or as much fun at a con for whatever personal reasons, but if that's the case... then why does this thread sound more like complaining about how the con needs to be better instead of complaining about whatever personal reasons it wasn't as enjoyable this year? I think that I was just getting the wrong vibe from the thread, since it is hard to convey meaning over the internet with no intonations or anything.
Though, my point still stands that if you didn't have fun, then it's a personal problem more than a con problem, but I guess that's the point of the thread? I'm still not sure if I fully get the OP's point in posting this.
Quote from: r3za1264 on June 01, 2010, 10:26:57 PM
Quote from: Kupo on June 01, 2010, 09:17:23 PM
I think it's because they've banned the "hug lines" and the "dance lines" this year. The hallway that is between the Game Room and the Hilton seemed empty to me. Don't get me wrong, I understand the perspective of why people complained about it the previous years, but it seems like a "anime convention" tradition that shouldn't be taken away. Maybe have a section of the center dedicated for the hug-liners that can be overlooked by Rovers for safety? I don't know, I don't want to start an argument, cause I'm sure there's a solution out there that can satisfy both sides, just don't try to figure it out in this thread.
YESSSS!!!!!!!! THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I THINK!)&$*)@&$*@_#_R why would you destroy the hug line D: i just noticed how much of an impact it does to fanime. I think it opens people up, like last year i was all quiet but i went through the hug line and got me pumped up! it got people to dance and do the things that they do at fanime! sorry its just an opinion. sorry if i offend anyone. I started one this year but got messed up by rovers...
As far as I know, "Hug lines" and spontaneous dance parties were not banned this year, as long as they did not block the general flow of traffic. This year we had the spontaneous sing along/jam session, as well as the cuddle fest and Spin the Bottle in the gaming room, and we didn't really care about them, though Spin the Bottle did get eventually shut down because not all the participants were over 18.
"Hug Me" signs have always been forbidden -- California has pretty strict laws about solicitous signs, and we have no choice but to enforce those. It's the same with weapons.
You also have to keep in mind that Rovers aren't the ones who decide what is allowed or not. Any time there is a question about something being allowed, Rovers report to Con Ops, who then report to... someone else. Not sure where it goes from there. And then Rovers just enforce whatever decisions are made, whether we agree with them or not.
Quote from: monotone on June 01, 2010, 10:56:53 PM
Quote from: r3za1264 on June 01, 2010, 10:26:57 PM
Quote from: Kupo on June 01, 2010, 09:17:23 PM
I think it's because they've banned the "hug lines" and the "dance lines" this year. The hallway that is between the Game Room and the Hilton seemed empty to me. Don't get me wrong, I understand the perspective of why people complained about it the previous years, but it seems like a "anime convention" tradition that shouldn't be taken away. Maybe have a section of the center dedicated for the hug-liners that can be overlooked by Rovers for safety? I don't know, I don't want to start an argument, cause I'm sure there's a solution out there that can satisfy both sides, just don't try to figure it out in this thread.
YESSSS!!!!!!!! THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I THINK!)&$*)@&$*@_#_R why would you destroy the hug line D: i just noticed how much of an impact it does to fanime. I think it opens people up, like last year i was all quiet but i went through the hug line and got me pumped up! it got people to dance and do the things that they do at fanime! sorry its just an opinion. sorry if i offend anyone. I started one this year but got messed up by rovers...
As far as I know, "Hug lines" and spontaneous dance parties were not banned this year, as long as they did not block the general flow of traffic. This year we had the spontaneous sing along/jam session, as well as the cuddle fest and Spin the Bottle in the gaming room, and we didn't really care about them, though Spin the Bottle did get eventually shut down because not all the participants were over 18.
"Hug Me" signs have always been forbidden -- California has pretty strict laws about solicitous signs, and we have no choice but to enforce those. It's the same with weapons.
You also have to keep in mind that Rovers aren't the ones who decide what is allowed or not. Any time there is a question about something being allowed, Rovers report to Con Ops, who then report to... someone else. Not sure where it goes from there. And then Rovers just enforce whatever decisions are made, whether we agree with them or not.
Nah dude, i started one for like 15 minutes. without signs. they said they had to bring it down. if it wasnt banned there would be more of them.
Quote from: iomoon on June 01, 2010, 10:43:53 PM
Perhaps it's because of the lack of excitement that I was able to relax this year.
What's up with the lolita hate? It was hot, and therefore a lot of lolitas didn't wear over-the-top coordinates. The point for some is to be comfortable walking around for 8 hours a day. Hey, just enjoy watching the others. :P
Quote from: TC_X0_Lt_0X on June 01, 2010, 10:29:35 PM
I agree. I had a few bad moments this year but past those it just fell a little empty compared to last year. Still I can't say it was not fun.
Quote from: Nina Star 9 on June 01, 2010, 04:51:47 PM
Lolita isn't cosplay, you guys. @____@
Kind of nick-picking there aren't you? It's basically treated as Cosplay by most. It may not be actual costumes but most people don't where Lolita all day long, they where it for special events to get attention. Or so my observations and personal opinion tell me.
Uh... you've never seen us in San Francisco, have you? Lolita is worn on a regular basis.
I see. Still I can't say I don't see it as just a way for people to attract attention. But whatever, in the end it does not matter =P
I saw a lot of heart put into the cosplays this year.
Quote from: bebop on June 01, 2010, 03:06:41 PM
- The Black & White Ball's music this year was sorta crappy, and not even loud enough for an energetic dance.
This was the first year for B&W Ball in the new ballroom, so we got caught a little off guard with the acoustics. Unfortunately, it seemed that from song to song we were getting significant variation in volume. Some songs were too soft and some were too loud. We did tempo shift some of the songs in the playlist such that it would be easier to dance to for people who attended the dance classes. Sorry if the end result disappointed you. As for energetic dancing, we were having a blast near the DJ booth. I think I ended up leading two followers, being part of a three leader swap and doing partner swaps every chorus in one of the songs. Lotsa fun.
This fanime was my first con so maybe that makes me biased but I enjoyed all the costumes, lolitas, cheap, or otherwise. I'm someone who never has a lot of money so I worked with what I had for my outfits, I don't think that cheap costumes can make a con good or bad.
I was disappointed by the Rovers as well as the behavior of the judges at the Gong Show, as well as some of the haters among the con. I feel that a convention atmosphere should be friendlier, not about hating on whatever everyone else decides to do.
With that being said I had an amazing time, met some amazing people, and look forward to Fanime 2011
Another thing I noticed this year was a lack of Naruto and Bleach Cosplay.
... No I am quite happy with that. F them Narutards and Bleachfags =P
Wow.. I'm kind of surprised at the lolita comments. I have to admit that I'm guilty of being one of those "not so good lolitas" despite never claiming to be.
I made a couple of skirts and a dress there were inspired by the lolita fashion and they were the first things I've ever sewn from a pattern so they weren't that great.. but I wore them anyways because I thought they were fun and I put a lot of work into them.
I even went to the Lolita picnic to try and learn more about the fashion so that as I learn I can do things correctly.
Besides, I'd rather see people trying and wearing different things at the con even if it isn't right. I think that is one of the good things about going to Fanime!
Oh yeah I saw the Lolita picnic when my boyfriend and I went outside where it was being held to look and to finish our foodz. It was cute :D
Quote from: TC_X0_Lt_0X on June 01, 2010, 11:28:53 PM
Another thing I noticed this year was a lack of Naruto and Bleach Cosplay.
... No I am quite happy with that. F them Narutards and Bleachfags =P
Same here. It was toned down so much that I was very happy with me. IMO, I saw more variety this year Cosplay wise and that's a good thing. I had fun at Fanime, mostly cause i was doing photos and hanging out with friends. That's what made my fanime. Specially doing a photoshoot at San Jose City Hall till 1:30 a.m lol
Quote from: Green_Tea on June 02, 2010, 11:28:59 AM
Wow.. I'm kind of surprised at the lolita comments. I have to admit that I'm guilty of being one of those "not so good lolitas" despite never claiming to be.
I made a couple of skirts and a dress there were inspired by the lolita fashion and they were the first things I've ever sewn from a pattern so they weren't that great.. but I wore them anyways because I thought they were fun and I put a lot of work into them.
I even went to the Lolita picnic to try and learn more about the fashion so that as I learn I can do things correctly.
Besides, I'd rather see people trying and wearing different things at the con even if it isn't right. I think that is one of the good things about going to Fanime!
Don't worry about it~ I don't remember who you were at the picnic (I was the girl in the black dress with the cityscape on it), but I'm sure that you were fine. Besides, it's all about having fun, right? You seem to be willing to improve, so that's a good thing. :D (I'd say that most lolis started out not quite getting it, but with some work and some practice, it comes pretty naturally, so keep at it and maybe next year your outfit will wow everyone!)
Quote from: bebop on June 01, 2010, 03:06:41 PM
- Too much Gothic Lolita cosplayers instead of actual anime cosplayers
Lolita =/= Cosplay. The only time it is cosplay is if the character you play is lolita. D:
[Edit]
Wow, I'm not late to the party or anything am I? /sarcasmQuote- The Black & White Ball's music this year was sorta crappy, and not even loud enough for an energetic dance.
I didn't go personally, as I didn't have a date...but I didn't get the impression that it was supposed to be energetic.
It conjures images of grandeur and sophistication not lots of energy. I thought that's what the rave was for. but I could be wrong. :P
I personally had a ton more fun this year than years past. My first year was amazing, and ever since then if didn't feel the same but this year I had a sort of epiphany and realized how much I love this con. 7 years of attending has given me great times. Even when FanimeCon "Sucks" it doesn't suck...you know?
I actually spent what felt like most of the time in my hotel room (injury inflicted on Friday), and yet I still feel like I had the best time ever!
I was in a similar rut like you ash chan. I was in the hotel mainly cause of maintence issues with the room. But when I did go it was a lot of fun I think. I haven't been to Fanime in years...actually suprised to see fimilar faces like RyuHayabusa. Sadly no one remembered me ;.;
Quote from: ice queen on June 02, 2010, 03:56:29 PM
I was in a similar rut like you ash chan. I was in the hotel mainly cause of maintence issues with the room. But when I did go it was a lot of fun I think. I haven't been to Fanime in years...actually suprised to see fimilar faces like RyuHayabusa. Sadly no one remembered me ;.;
You saw me? You could've come up to me and say hi lol :D
Quote from: ice queen on June 02, 2010, 03:56:29 PM
I was in a similar rut like you ash chan. I was in the hotel mainly cause of maintence issues with the room. But when I did go it was a lot of fun I think. I haven't been to Fanime in years...actually suprised to see fimilar faces like RyuHayabusa. Sadly no one remembered me ;.;
I have
no friggin clue how I hurt my ankle so badly.
I didn't fall, I didn't twist it, I was simply walking.
And my ankle is now bruised and gross and swollen. :c
It didn't help that I kept walking on it through the con, but I couldn't let my Gyarados go to waste!
I just didn't get to go to the rave or a couple of the panels that I planned on going to because I took so many naps to get away from the pain. xD
Oh well.
Winning a prize on the Stackers game for the 2nd year in a row alone pretty much made my weekend.
Quote from: ash_chan on June 02, 2010, 04:02:18 PM
Quote from: ice queen on June 02, 2010, 03:56:29 PM
I was in a similar rut like you ash chan. I was in the hotel mainly cause of maintence issues with the room. But when I did go it was a lot of fun I think. I haven't been to Fanime in years...actually suprised to see fimilar faces like RyuHayabusa. Sadly no one remembered me ;.;
I have no friggin clue how I hurt my ankle so badly.
I didn't fall, I didn't twist it, I was simply walking.
And my ankle is now bruised and gross and swollen. :c
It didn't help that I kept walking on it through the con, but I couldn't let my Gyarados go to waste!
I just didn't get to go to the rave or a couple of the panels that I planned on going to because I took so many naps to get away from the pain. xD
Oh well.
Winning a prize on the Stackers game for the 2nd year in a row alone pretty much made my weekend.
that's good to hear I do hope you're getting better XD
Quote from: ash_chan on June 02, 2010, 04:02:18 PM
Oh well.
Winning a prize on the Stackers game for the 2nd year in a row alone pretty much made my weekend.
Every year I spend about $10 on that game. I can get to the top row every time, but then it starts jumping around like a spaz and I can never line it up.
Quote from: ice queen on June 02, 2010, 04:06:59 PM
that's good to hear I do hope you're getting better XD
Oh yeah.
I'm still walking slowly and with a bit of a limp, but it doesn't hurt as much.
It looks worse than it feels.
I'll be back at square one tomorrow though, I have a soccer game I promised my club I'd play in.
Quote from: Kyra_MaverickEvery year I spend about $10 on that game. I can get to the top row every time, but then it starts jumping around like a spaz and I can never line it up..
I use the beats in addition to the visual cues to help line them up.
I spent $7 last year and won a DSi, I spent $25 this year and won an iPod Touch.
Here's hoping for next year? xD
well i dont know about any of you but i loved this years fanime, maybe it was cause i finally had a hotel for every day to sleep in, and did more things, but i absolutely loved it :D
I sorta had the same reaction... but in the last day or so I've worked it out to a couple of things: didn't read up enough about the guests to see what I wanted to sit in on and what I really could have gotten out of a few more panels. Didn't know anyone til I got there, one friend was down but we didn't get to hang out and he wasn't so into the Con, was just using it as something to do, shopping in the dealer's room and 'people watching', but I was hoping to go and sit and learn a few things on top of all that. I was hoping to find more art related stuff going on- completely missed a couple of poorly named panels on design, should have sat and read the guide a lot more carefully. Now I'm bummed not because of the con, but b/c they had a bit of what I was looking for, but I didn't see it.
I do have to say the lines and having to choose between event or line-sitting is getting a bit old though. I think FC should consider a cap now before it really gets out of hand like some others; too large for their own good and for the fans to enjoy. That can really hit your rep.
It totally helps to have a room and to be connected to what's going on after hours.
too. much. hetalia... DX
i liked the con going for the first time but... i feel like it could have left a bigger impression on me. only true highlights i have of the con are the flow concert and randomly running into gaia's lanzer at the end of the con =/
The reason cosplay quality was lower this year compared to last year is the economy. However, the number of cosplayers increased. So many Pokemon, Vocaloid, and Hetalia.
Too much Hetalia, Bleach, KINGDOM HEARTS, and lolitas.. =____________=
They were.. everywhere.. it seemed to drown me a little.
Quote from: MyMidnightAffair on June 04, 2010, 01:13:23 PM
Too much Hetalia
Quote from: ININ on June 04, 2010, 01:12:52 PM
So many Pokemon, Vocaloid, and Hetalia.
Sorry my bad >.< It was fun being Seychelles and Misty though.
For my first Fanime it was alright. I was supprised. I usually see like tons of Naruto cosplays at other cons I have been to.
...What's Hetalia?
Quote from: Knightfire on June 05, 2010, 01:37:58 PM
...What's Hetalia?
Hetalia (http://hetalia.wikia.com/wiki/Hetalia_Archives)
All those national flags walking around with people attached to them...
All the Hetalia cosplay didn't bother me too much, but it's probably because I'm not familiar with it enough to know who the characters are unless they are running around waving a flag or otherwise proclaiming to be Zembla or whatever country.
The running around with giant flags was a bit of a nuisance, but I didn't see too many doing that for too long.
crappy lolitas: some of those girls put a lot of heart into making or coordinating their lolita outfits, and any girl who wants to look cute deserves to do so without being criticized. perhaps their outfits didn't seem up to par in your opinion, but at least they were dressing up and having fun.
crappy cosplays in general: once again, at least the people are having fun. maybe they're not good at sewing or coordinating costumes, but at least there's spirit behind it.
if you're not on staff, perhaps it's harder to realize how difficult it is to have a convention. but there's no mature reason to talk crap about the convention just because you personally didn't enjoy it.
if you disapprove of the cosplays, then make one that's really good and enjoy it. but don't bring down other people who aren't as talented or experienced at cosplay.
Quote from: AuroraDreamer on June 05, 2010, 01:39:41 PM
Quote from: Knightfire on June 05, 2010, 01:37:58 PM
...What's Hetalia?
Hetalia (http://hetalia.wikia.com/wiki/Hetalia_Archives)
Oh. Snap. I got to check that out now!
about the vocaloids
everytime i saw one
i felt about jumping them and being like
BE MORE ORIGINALLLLL.
/never was into the vocaloids to begin with
lolllllllllll.
:u;; i wish there wasn't like cosplay fads every year -sigh- but that can't be helped
By "not up to par," it's really a nicer way of saying "not actually lolita," at least for me. It has a somewhat specific aesthetic that is often done incorrectly (wrong skirt shape, too much cheap lace, costumey elements, etc.). I actually have no problem with lolis who aren't quite "there" yet, especially when they are honestly trying. (The ones who aren't trying or who think they are trying but are being ~special snowflakes~ and ~unique~ by dressing incorrectly for the style annoy me, but it's mostly because I want to help everyone improve and these types don't care about that.) I like it when people have fun, and I like it when people are trying to get into something that I'm into, especially when I can hopefully encourage them and help them along. (Though, it is hard to help anyone at a con setting because no matter how polite you are in trying to help someone, they will probably take it as being rude and attacking their clothes, but I do give advice if anyone asks~)
I'm sorry I have to get in on this.... My year if I wasn't staffing would have been Meh as well....
And of course there is such a thing as cosplaying lolita.... so we can't really bash anyone for doing that. And lolita when you look at the fashion, is the same as goth and emo and scene and prep. They are different styles and you can dress up as them for Halloween and such or you could actually be into the fashion.
Thank you for my rant :P
Oh and I wish all the staffers were nicer :/ I had a hard time keeping attendees happy because of the few bad eggs.... of course I didn't know who it was but whatever....
I agree this fanime seemed very meh (well except for the FLOW concert that was awesome!) I was very bored with all the cosplayers this year, too many vocaloids!!!! omg I cant stand vocaloids (no offense to anyone who cosplayed as one) but there was one really awesome Isshin cosplayer on friday! omg he's on the forums contact me mr. hotness! lmao j/k
another thing that bothered me was NO FLOW MERCHANDISE!!! WTH is up with that!
I don't like Vocaloids either... Well, I would be totally indifferent to them if one of my cosplays (Ryth from Jet Set Radio Future) wasn't constantly being mistaken for Miku Hatsune, with some people being pretty insistant that I was a bad Miku cosplayer, which I really hope that I was, since I wasn't cosplaying as her. XD; (It makes it worse that Miku has an Ulala costume in that PSP game... thankfully hers is the white version and I did Ulala's orange version! ... yeah, I'm a Sega fangirl, so what. ;P)
Man! It was cool that I got to cosplay Vocaloid character that I can pull off and I like Vocaloids. I was cosplaying as Hiyama Kiyoteru.
http://moetron.com/newimages/20091112_kiyoteru-img.jpg
But my main problem with my character is its very too simple, unrecognizable, and brand new (Hiyama Kiyoteru was released last December). That I felt sooooo out of place out the Vocaloid gathering even though I AM cosplaying as a Vocaloid character but at least I stand out more out of the rest since I AM the only the Hiyama Kiyoteru cosplayer. Yeah even though I am cosplaying a Vocaloid character I did not like the fact that there's too many Miku here there.
on the topic of fads, did anyone else notice the amount of guys cross dressing this year? it seemed way more then last year to me
Quote from: r3za1264 on June 01, 2010, 10:26:57 PM
YESSSS!!!!!!!! THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I THINK!)&$*)@&$*@_#_R why would you destroy the hug line D:
Its so people like me running back and forth to the Maid Cafe and Stage Zero are not blocked. It's also a HUGE fire hazard and a huge inconvenience. I don't know about you, but I like to be able to walk without having to be stopped every 5 minutes by an obnoxious group of people wanting hugs.
This thread is getting off topic too often.
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