FanimeCon 2015 Weapons, Props, and Cosplay Policy
Hello Everyone, I am your new Rovers Department Head for 2015 and wanted to post the new policies for this year.
FanimeCon Costume Rules & Limitations• All con attendees must wear shoes at all times while in official convention space. This includes, but is not limited to the: Marriot, Hilton, Fairmont, Civic Center, and Parkside Hall. Even if a character goes barefoot, the cosplayer must wear shoes
• Costumes and daily wear shall not expose the body in such a way as to be deemed indecent exposure under California and City of San Jose ordinances. Private parts must be covered in an opaque material and not be subject to slippage or gaps. Liquid Latex or other conformal body coatings will be judged on a case by case basis.
• All costumes worn within the convention center must fit through a standard doorway.
• No costume may generate odor, smoke, or fog, or have overly bright or flashing lights.
• All costumes with limited visibility and/or movement must have a "handler" to assist with crowd navigation and safety. This also applies to costumes with large "wings" or other oversized elements.
• No costumes may be realistic depictions of American Law Enforcement or current American Military uniforms, or have the words POLICE, POLICIA, SWAT, FBI, DEA, CIA or any other official Government Agency names or initials on them.
• Official flags shall be respected, and cannot be worn as part of a costume. They must be on a flagpole. Home-made or unofficial flags are exempt from this rule.
FanimeCon Prop Rules & Limitations • If you want to carry a prop at FanimeCon, it must be peace-bonded by a Rover at a peace-bonding station. With the exception of explicitly banned props, all peace-bonding will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
• Only props which are part of a cosplay and suit the costume will be peace-bonded.
• In order to carry a peace-bonded prop, you must be in the matching costume.
• Certain weapons are banned no matter what:
o Anything which is illegal in the City of San Jose, Santa Clara County, State of California, or the United States in general.
o Real weapons, projectile weapons (such as airsoft, bb and nerf guns, bows, crossbows, and firearms), live steel, metal/wooden baseball bats, metal kunai, incendiary devices, lasers, paddles, whips, floggers, baton-type weapons, or props made of glass.
o Guns which are suitably realistic that they could be mistaken for a real gun, or which utilize significant parts of a real gun, airsoft gun, bb gun, or other projectile weapon.
o Any item may be added to this list at any time by FanimeCon. Changes will be posted at Rovers, Peace Bonding stations, and to the website.
• Some props are allowed conditionally:
o Gun-like props must have a non-removable orange tip at the end of the barrel which is visible from the side and which extends at least one inch up the barrel, or they must be painted all over in a bright safety color. They cannot have any functional parts, and must not be usable.
o Sword-like props may not be made of live steel .
o Signs which an actual character carries may be peace-bonded. Sign standards or poles must be of plastic or light wood.
• All props must be small enough to fit through a standard doorway without effort.
• While carrying props, you will be held to very strict behavior standards:
o Props may not be brandished, flailed around, or used (for play-fighting, or otherwise).
o Props must remain with the costume which they were peace-bonded for.
o Especially in crowded areas, attendees are expected to carry their props carefully and in a neutral position. Long or tall props must be carried vertically, and sword-like and gun-like props should be holstered or otherwise secured.
o Using props in an unsafe or threatening manner may result in more severe consequences.
o Gun like props may not be pointed at anyone at any time.
o Any behavior which a FanimeCon staff member considers to be unsafe or unacceptable will result in appropriate action by a staff member.
Potential Consequences for Violations:• First Offense:
o Props: Removal of peace-bond and/or prop taken off premises.
o Costume: Required costume modification/removal or acquisition of a handler.
• Second Offense:
o One day badge suspension and/or full-weekend suspension of prop privileges.
• Third Offense:
o Badge pulled.
• FanimeCon reserves the right to modify consequences as necessary at their discretion.
Weapons & Props bought during FanimeCon from the Dealer's Hall, Artist's Alley, or Swap-Meet must be put into a box or bag which renders them inaccessible, and unusable. They must then be removed from convention premises as soon as possible. We will not peace-bond anything bought during the convention except props which meet all peace-bonding requirements.
Props for Masquerade have a completely different set of rules. If you wish to carry a prop for Masquerade around the convention center, it must meet all peace-bonding criteria (and have been peace-bonded.) If it is only for Masquerade, it must stay in a car or hotel room except when you are taking it to, are at, or are taking it back to your car or room from Masquerade.
Why can't I carry ______?This is our number one question, so I'm going to answer this first. The short version? Probably because it's one (or more) of the following:
a) dangerous
b) illegal
c) something someone has caused major problems with in the past
d) related to something which has caused problems at other conventions (we like to learn from their mistakes, rather than duplicating them here.)
The slightly longer version? It's probably something which you wouldn't be allowed to carry out on the street, or which would make people uncomfortable. When FanimeCon arrives in town, everyone knows, but that doesn't mean that everyone will remember when they see something which makes them feel uncomfortable. (Or, they may remember it as a negative thing, and hold it against the convention.) In order to stay in San Jose, we have to make sure we keep the goodwill of the San Jose Convention Center-- and surrounding businesses-- and in some cases, that means honoring their rule requests, and in others it means addressing complaints which have been made.
But I spent a lot of time/money on this prop. I wouldn't do anything stupid with it!In most circumstances, it's not actually you we're worried about. Nor is it most of the thousands of con-members. It is, in fact, that idiot who's trying to show off for someone and decides it's a good idea to duel with someone else in the middle of the Road by Stage Zero. Because we can't test for common sense, and if we could, we can't account for bad ideas, we have to create rules with minimal gray area, so they can be most evenly enforced. We don't get to say "Oh, it's [name]! I remember you, you're cool, go ahead and carry that [banned weapon] around the convention center!"
I think your rules are stupid.I know. I hear it a lot. People don't like our rules, but without working alternatives, we can't do anything about it. The rules which are here are largely here to stay, though if you have a major issue, and feel like you can suggest a functional, enforceable alternative please PM Me with it.
Now for the classic FAQ:What is Peace Bonding? FanimeCon Rovers peace-bond props with "Peace Bonds" (aka zip-ties) to mark that the cosplayer carrying the prop has agreed to abide by the rules. For safety reasons, we require all props to be peace-bonded as soon as possible after they enter the convention center.
What can't be carried?We do not allow real guns, or toy guns which can shoot things. We do not allow props with actual blades, or which could be sharpened to have a blade. We do not allow things which are illegal according to State or Federal Law (sai, nunchuku, and tonfa are in this category). What we do allow are props which are clearly props, things which are not weapons, and which cannot shoot anything. We allow items which are part of a costume, and which actually suit the costume. They must be peace-bonded, and they may never be used, or brandished—this means no play-fighting, no pointing at people, and no actual fighting.
I just bought this awesome ______ in the Dealer's Hall/Artist's Alley/Swap Meet. Can I get it peace-bonded?Only if you are in a costume which the prop is appropriate for, and it meets all other peace-bonding requirements, will we peace-bond the prop for you. Most of the time, the answer to this question is "No." Sometimes we have to say no because the prop is not allowed, sometimes it's because it doesn't suit the costume you're wearing, and sometimes we say no because you're not in a costume at all.
You said I couldn't carry this, what now?Weapons and props which have not been approved for peace-bonding should be promptly removed from convention center property and public hotel space. They need to be taken back to a hotel room or car, and should remain there for as long as you are in the convention center. We cannot hold your props for you, even if you lack a car or hotel room. If you get a cardboard box and put the prop inside that, you may carry the cardboard box, provided the prop is inaccessible while it is in the box.
I don't have a car/hotel room, what do I do? If you don't have a car or hotel room, there are a couple options. First, you can ask a friend to use their car or hotel room. If you don't have a friend with a place to stash your stuff, you can sometimes ask the hotel desks to hold stuff temporarily. The last option is to get a box which can hold your prop, and then put your prop in the box. As long as your prop stays in the box, you are ok.
This was OK last year, what about now?We review our rules yearly, so items and costumes okay for 2011 may be disallowed in 2012. Please come by and get your prop checked and peace bonded for the current year.
You just said no, but I saw someone else carrying the same thing...Locate the nearest Rover and politely point the person out to the Rover. Give the Rover a brief explanation of what you believe is the peace bonding violation. We'll take it from there. We try to be even, but there are never enough Rovers for the number of people at Fanime. You can deal with it yourself (by politely asking someone to go get their prop checked), or you can have a Rover take care of it for you by notifying one and pointing the other person out.
What about the signs carried by Durara cosplayers?Those are OK since they are a part of a cosplay. As long as they are just the street signs and they're not soliciting anything we won't stop them.
Are there rules about the flags carried for Hetalia or other anime?Yes, actually, thanks for asking! You must be respectful of flags at all times, this means keeping them on flag-poles and carrying them carefully, keeping them off the ground, and not wearing them as capes or other articles of clothing. While carrying flags indoors, keep them held firmly against their flagpole so they are not drifting behind you and causing safety issues. Please do not modify or attach things to official flags.
What if I'm in the Military and want to wear my Uniform?You may wear your Class A or B uniform while in the convention hall area as long as you:
1) Are a currently serving member of the United States Armed Forces.
2) Have your Military ID on you and can present it to the Convention Authorities when asked.
3) Present yourself to the props tagging room to have your badge marked as official military.
4) Continue to wear your uniform properly. There are NCO's who work this convention and they will insist you wear it correctly or not at all.
What about NERF guns?This is a common one for us. There are two rules to carry NERF:
1) It must not be functional. If you could put ammo in and shoot it, we cannot let you carry it.
2) It may be painted so long as the tip remains fluorescent.
I personally think it's better to leave a whole side unpainted, but the only requirement is the tip
Can I carry this shovel/wrench/hammer?The answer is probably no. Tools are heavy, and can often be dangerous.
Can I have metal armor?Sure, as long as your metal armor doesn't have sharp edges or large metal spikes and you follow visibility rules. A full helm for example requires a handler as you have restricted visibility and hearing.
I have a cane, and I actually use it to walk. Does it need to be peace-bonded?No. If it is medically necessary, we do not have to peace bond it.
Can I carry this tonfa/baton/sap/club?No. California State law lists tonfa as well as several weighted (and non-weighted) baton type instruments as illegal to carry. In many cases, this includes wooden baseball bats. In most cases, if it is a functional club we will have to say no.
Can I carry my bow & arrows?If the bow has absolutely no tension to be able to fire something, and the arrows have no tips, then yes, we can let you carry it. Real bows have an ability to fire something, and are considered functional projectile weapons. To carry a "real" bow you'd have to string it with something which could not be tensioned to fire anything.
My prop got damaged from peace-bonding. and/or This Rover was a jerk. If you can describe the person who peacebonded in such a way that your prop got damaged, or if it happens in 2012, get the person's badge number or name, we (the Rovers) can take care of it. (If you have reports of this from previous years, please email
[email protected].)
If a Rover is acting in an unprofessional way, get their name/badge number and take it to the Rovers Shift Lead at Rover Base. Please be aware that we
cannot fix this after the convention is over. The best way to deal with a Rover who is being overbearing/mean/unprofessional is to get their badge number and description and come to Rovers Base ASAP.
These questions are lumped together because they're frequently related.
Can you tell me if my prop will be OK? It's very difficult to approve a prop over the internet. What I can do for you, if you provide some key things, is give you a tentative answer. I need to know what you are cosplaying, and I need pictures of your props. If you have them, I'd like pictures of you in costume with your props. If your question is early on in the fabrication process, I can sometimes make suggestions that would make your prop OK, or give you things to be sure you include. I try to work with you guys, and I try to help you make your props OK whenever I can. Please feel free to post in this thread and I'll do my best to help you out.
I'm confused by what you mean by _____. or What about _____? If you don't see your question answered here, or in the above post, please post in this thread. I will do my best to answer your questions promptly.
Another saved spot for questions
Hello. :) I asked about this on the other thred, but I guess stuff was being sorted out, so I'll ask here. XD my friend is doing a Kirby gijinka cosplay and made a star wand and we were wondering if it would need peace bonding or if it would not be allowed. Its made simply out of wood and clay. Thank you. :)
This is it: http://gaaralover995.deviantart.com/art/Star-Wand-508291328
I cannot officially state yes or no, but I believe you can so long as the weight is minimal (think a 1L bottle of soda, under that), but I am not in that department, I just watch them do a lot of peacebonding.
Oh well, I guess no smoke is coming out of my cosplay.
Quote from: gary925 on March 01, 2015, 07:35:31 PM
Hello. :) I asked about this on the other thred, but I guess stuff was being sorted out, so I'll ask here. XD my friend is doing a Kirby gijinka cosplay and made a star wand and we were wondering if it would need peace bonding or if it would not be allowed. Its made simply out of wood and clay. Thank you. :)
This is it: http://gaaralover995.deviantart.com/art/Star-Wand-508291328
gary925, that prop looks just fine. Just please make sure you stop by and Peacebonding station to get it Peace Bound.
Quote from: Kite on March 01, 2015, 11:24:36 PM
Oh well, I guess no smoke is coming out of my cosplay.
Yes please dont. It can make other people nervous, or even worse set off someones allergies or asthma.
Quote from: FinalStar02 on March 06, 2015, 04:07:44 PM
Quote from: gary925 on March 01, 2015, 07:35:31 PM
Hello. :) I asked about this on the other thred, but I guess stuff was being sorted out, so I'll ask here. XD my friend is doing a Kirby gijinka cosplay and made a star wand and we were wondering if it would need peace bonding or if it would not be allowed. Its made simply out of wood and clay. Thank you. :)
This is it: http://gaaralover995.deviantart.com/art/Star-Wand-508291328
gary925, that prop looks just fine. Just please make sure you stop by and Peacebonding station to get it Peace Bound.
Cool, thank you thank you then. :)
What about real chains?
https://www.facebook.com/lbskcosplay/posts/744348305679052
I get to say Reyn time (https://40.media.tumblr.com/bfa98b4c31f1329a37e1da6cdf4d7851/tumblr_mg3ik0iIm91qkr5x2o1_500.png), too good of a chance not to.
OOH, Something I can answer as I had the situation to. Chains, as long as they are plastic, are allowed so long as they are bound, and not free moving. as you drop by peacebonding, they can ziptie them to their standards as peacebonding. I was pudge (from Dota 2), and 2 years ago I brought chains as part of character, and ziptied them that way (maybe a bit too tight, somewhat cut off circulation in the arm). Now, Finalstar, I know your word is best on this, so correct me if I am wrong.
Would using a Wii Gun Controller be allowed for gun props? I'm thinking about using one for a cosplay and wanted to make sure before I buy it.
Here's the link: http://www.amazon.com/Nintendo-Wii-Pistol-Grip-Gun-Blaster/dp/B00GWPVVVE/ref=aag_m_pw_dp?ie=UTF8&m=AXR5NJ43P6T3P
Quote from: reyn on March 08, 2015, 05:41:52 PM
What about real chains?
https://www.facebook.com/lbskcosplay/posts/744348305679052
Sorry for the slow reply, busy with work, haha... I have no problem with you using plastic chains. You can paint them to look real, but they should be plastic. I am even ok with you having about 1 foot loose to complete the look (/me is a big korra fan)
Quote from: Mythal on March 09, 2015, 07:55:58 PM
Would using a Wii Gun Controller be allowed for gun props? I'm thinking about using one for a cosplay and wanted to make sure before I buy it.
Here's the link: http://www.amazon.com/Nintendo-Wii-Pistol-Grip-Gun-Blaster/dp/B00GWPVVVE/ref=aag_m_pw_dp?ie=UTF8&m=AXR5NJ43P6T3P
As long as its that version, and you do not change the colors on it. It would make me feel even better if you put a WiiMote in it, or something white and square like a WiiMote in the top. The idea we are looking for is to make it look fake and I feel like if you put a WiiMote on top, it would look fake enough.
Quote from: FinalStar02 on March 14, 2015, 11:01:06 PM
Quote from: reyn on March 08, 2015, 05:41:52 PM
What about real chains?
https://www.facebook.com/lbskcosplay/posts/744348305679052
Sorry for the slow reply, busy with work, haha... I have no problem with you using plastic chains. You can paint them to look real, but they should be plastic. I am even ok with you having about 1 foot loose to complete the look (/me is a big korra fan)
Awesome! Thanks :)
Hello, would this prop be acceptable/is there a way that I can make it acceptable? It would be made out of wood and plastic (no metal).
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/165/5/6/nichijou_dreamscene_wallpaper_by_shinmeireiyyu-d53fna0.jpg
Hi, I was wondering if a plastic spear would be an acceptable prop for a cosplay, or if there would be a way I could make it comply (like make the tip out of foam). I was looking at something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Avatar-Costume-Accessory-Navi-Spear/dp/B003O68R2K/ref=sr_1_1?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1427853894&sr=1-1&keywords=toy+spear
Hello, I am cosplaying as tank girl and was wondering if this gun would be okay, as long as I painted the tip? It's made completely out of resin and has no firing parts
(https://img1.etsystatic.com/057/0/8456219/il_570xN.683675129_d76k.jpg)
The rules are VERY specific about not dressing as US military/law enforcement.
What about other nations? My crew wants to go as a Russian fireteam inspired by the Battlefield videogames. Aside from guns, are we good to go?
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10404145_707746756012718_6474195722230245136_n.jpg?oh=4a09f307494648048deac4f0bd964b25&oe=559E25DA)
Hello
I am dressing up as a character from persona 3. I had this Evoker water gun from japan for awhile and not plannin on not using it to shoot water of course!
However it looked a lot more realistic than i realize. Wondering what you all think if it'll fly for peace bonding or just leave it at home?
Quote from: evas on March 24, 2015, 08:38:12 PM
Hello, would this prop be acceptable/is there a way that I can make it acceptable? It would be made out of wood and plastic (no metal).
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/165/5/6/nichijou_dreamscene_wallpaper_by_shinmeireiyyu-d53fna0.jpg
If the bazooka looks like the one linked, then that should be ok. Just make sure to paint the end on the "barrel", 1 inch up, in a bright safety color. And of course stop by a peacebonding station when you get to Con.
Quote from: Navashuryn on March 31, 2015, 09:29:06 PM
Hi, I was wondering if a plastic spear would be an acceptable prop for a cosplay, or if there would be a way I could make it comply (like make the tip out of foam). I was looking at something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Avatar-Costume-Accessory-Navi-Spear/dp/B003O68R2K/ref=sr_1_1?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1427853894&sr=1-1&keywords=toy+spear
The spear is ok, just make sure its not sharp. If its sharp, then please file it down. Otherwise, you will be ok.
Quote from: glorificus on April 02, 2015, 05:01:14 PM
Hello, I am cosplaying as tank girl and was wondering if this gun would be okay, as long as I painted the tip? It's made completely out of resin and has no firing parts
(https://img1.etsystatic.com/057/0/8456219/il_570xN.683675129_d76k.jpg)
I am sorry, but that is too realistic for the convention. I recommend that you make something like the video suggested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rktvh3jYBkk
Quote from: itsroutine on April 03, 2015, 08:52:11 AM
The rules are VERY specific about not dressing as US military/law enforcement.
What about other nations? My crew wants to go as a Russian fireteam inspired by the Battlefield videogames. Aside from guns, are we good to go?
I am sorry but that kind of Military Dress is not allowed. While the rules do specifically says American Military, without that Russian flag, someone would be unable to tell those apart from a US Military uniform.
Quote from: dammit_jill on April 11, 2015, 10:58:07 AM
Hello
I am dressing up as a character from persona 3. I had this Evoker water gun from japan for awhile and not plannin on not using it to shoot water of course!
However it looked a lot more realistic than i realize. Wondering what you all think if it'll fly for peace bonding or just leave it at home?
Alright, I am actually ok with the look, but there are 2 conditions. 1: It needs an bright safety color on the tip to distinguish it as a prop (also if you're whiling, you can paint the grip that color too). 2: It would need to be non-functioning as a water gun. I would remove the trigger since you're not allowed to have any moving parts.
Quote from: FinalStar02 on April 14, 2015, 07:58:44 PMThe spear is ok, just make sure its not sharp. If its sharp, then please file it down. Otherwise, you will be ok.
Thank you very much! I am pretty sure the tip is just plain old plastic, but I won't know until I actually get it. I'll make sure to get rid of any sharp and/or pointy bits before the con. :)
I just have a quick question. I'm making a Flint Lock Pistol replica that is similar to this one: http://royalarmouriesshop.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/barber-pistols.jpg
for my Anne Bonny cosplay from Assassin's Creed. The entire base of it is made of foam board, and the will be covered in craft foam and painted to look realistic as I can manage.
However, I was wondering if I'm allowed to put Aluminum Sheeting on the side panels where the intricate designs are so I could engrave them instead of having to try and carve into some foam. I don't remember exactly the gage of the aluminum sheet I have is, but its very thin and malleable, and I'd make sure the edges where hidden/not sharp.
Hi, I didn't see anything mentioned about swords made of wood but I want to make sure. Would something like this be acceptable? Thanks :)
http://www.amazon.com/Exclusive-2-Piece-Samurai-Warrior-Sword/dp/B0011U9QYO/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1429386242&sr=8-12&keywords=katana+toy#Ask
Quote from: KuriQueenofFeels on April 18, 2015, 10:34:22 PM
I just have a quick question. I'm making a Flint Lock Pistol replica that is similar to this one: http://royalarmouriesshop.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/barber-pistols.jpg
for my Anne Bonny cosplay from Assassin's Creed. The entire base of it is made of foam board, and the will be covered in craft foam and painted to look realistic as I can manage.
However, I was wondering if I'm allowed to put Aluminum Sheeting on the side panels where the intricate designs are so I could engrave them instead of having to try and carve into some foam. I don't remember exactly the gage of the aluminum sheet I have is, but its very thin and malleable, and I'd make sure the edges where hidden/not sharp.
Sounds like you are covering all the bases. As long as no part of the metal you are using could be called a "blade" and anything sharp is internal or covered, you should be fine. Please remember to bring it by peacebonding when you get to Con.
PS, since its a gun prop, dont forget the orange tip.
Quote from: icingtea on April 20, 2015, 01:29:44 PM
Hi, I didn't see anything mentioned about swords made of wood but I want to make sure. Would something like this be acceptable? Thanks :)
http://www.amazon.com/Exclusive-2-Piece-Samurai-Warrior-Sword/dp/B0011U9QYO/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1429386242&sr=8-12&keywords=katana+toy#Ask
We do not have a rule against wooden swords, just make sure you not swing them around. Like always, please stop by peacebonding when you get to Con.
Where is the peace bonding staton located and when can I get my weapon bonded (is day 0 ok)? Also, is there a chance that a 6' scythe made of foam and a PVC pipe be approved? It isn't too heavy or anything.
I read that a bow is okay. Is a real stringed bow alright? I am stringing an old now that used to just shoot suction cupped arrows. It's not powerful. I'm using a thick string so I can't even knock an arrow. I will also not be carrying an arrow. Just in my quiver but those will be glued to the bottom and are just dowel rods with no ends.
I just want to clarify that it will be fine before I start painting my bow red.
Quote from: Bakaheichou on April 25, 2015, 06:15:20 PM
Where is the peace bonding staton located and when can I get my weapon bonded (is day 0 ok)? Also, is there a chance that a 6' scythe made of foam and a PVC pipe be approved? It isn't too heavy or anything.
There are 2 Peacebonding stations. One is in the Hilton, 2nd Floor, Santa Clara Room. There will be a sign near the elevators. The other is in the center on the convention center, near the escalators on the 1st floor. Both of these stations should open around 7am Friday.
A 6 Foot Scythe will most likely me ok given the materials. Make sure it fits through a standard doorway. Also when you carrying it, make sure to carry it straight up and down. I will suggest given its sign you have a friend around to make it doesn't hit anyone.
Quote from: ShikiIchijo on April 26, 2015, 08:12:33 PM
I read that a bow is okay. Is a real stringed bow alright? I am stringing an old now that used to just shoot suction cupped arrows. It's not powerful. I'm using a thick string so I can't even knock an arrow. I will also not be carrying an arrow. Just in my quiver but those will be glued to the bottom and are just dowel rods with no ends.
I just want to clarify that it will be fine before I start painting my bow red.
I am not sure where you read that, but unfortunately, you can not bring a real bow, or even a toy bow. If it was designed to shoot projectiles, it is not allowed.
Here is a link to the official FanimeCon Props Policy http://www.fanime.com/code-of-conduct/weapons-policy/ (http://www.fanime.com/code-of-conduct/weapons-policy/)
If you wouldn't mind, where did you read that Bows are ok?
Quote from: FinalStar02 on April 27, 2015, 04:19:53 PM
Quote from: ShikiIchijo on April 26, 2015, 08:12:33 PM
I read that a bow is okay. Is a real stringed bow alright? I am stringing an old now that used to just shoot suction cupped arrows. It's not powerful. I'm using a thick string so I can't even knock an arrow. I will also not be carrying an arrow. Just in my quiver but those will be glued to the bottom and are just dowel rods with no ends.
I just want to clarify that it will be fine before I start painting my bow red.
I am not sure where you read that, but unfortunately, you can not bring a real bow, or even a toy bow. If it was designed to shoot projectiles, it is not allowed.
Here is a link to the official FanimeCon Props Policy http://www.fanime.com/code-of-conduct/weapons-policy/ (http://www.fanime.com/code-of-conduct/weapons-policy/)
If you wouldn't mind, where did you read that Bows are ok?
Quote from: FinalStar02 on March 01, 2015, 12:08:27 PM
Can I carry my bow & arrows?
If the bow has absolutely no tension to be able to fire something, and the arrows have no tips, then yes, we can let you carry it. Real bows have an ability to fire something, and are considered functional projectile weapons. To carry a "real" bow you'd have to string it with something which could not be tensioned to fire anything.
Will there be any peace bonding stations at Clockwork Alchemy? I was planning on picking up my badge there and figured it'd be easier to get my prop peace bonded there instead of going to Fanime.
Quote from: FinalStar02 on March 01, 2015, 12:08:27 PM
Can I carry my bow & arrows?
If the bow has absolutely no tension to be able to fire something, and the arrows have no tips, then yes, we can let you carry it. Real bows have an ability to fire something, and are considered functional projectile weapons. To carry a "real" bow you'd have to string it with something which could not be tensioned to fire anything.
As that section says, the bow must not be able to hold tension, which is what I said about real bows and toy bows that would be strung.
Quote from: Mythal on April 27, 2015, 08:03:24 PM
Will there be any peace bonding stations at Clockwork Alchemy? I was planning on picking up my badge there and figured it'd be easier to get my prop peace bonded there instead of going to Fanime.
There is typically a Fanime Peacebonding station run by Clockwork Alchemy, at the Double Tree, but I haven't had the pleasure of attending so I could not speak to where it is, sorry.
Quote from: FinalStar02 on April 28, 2015, 05:07:12 PM
Quote from: Mythal on April 27, 2015, 08:03:24 PM
Will there be any peace bonding stations at Clockwork Alchemy? I was planning on picking up my badge there and figured it'd be easier to get my prop peace bonded there instead of going to Fanime.
There is typically a Fanime Peacebonding station run by Clockwork Alchemy, at the Double Tree, but I haven't had the pleasure of attending so I could not speak to where it is, sorry.
Alright! I think I'll see if I can change my pick up location to Fanime and the SJCC then so I can get my prop peace bonded after picking up my badge. Thanks for the reply! :)
Quote from: Mythal on April 29, 2015, 12:56:00 PM
Alright! I think I'll see if I can change my pick up location to Fanime and the SJCC then so I can get my prop peace bonded after picking up my badge. Thanks for the reply! :)
You don't really NEED to change your pickup location, I understand they use that to track expected pick-ups, but both pick-up stations can print off your badge.
Quote from: Mythal on April 27, 2015, 08:03:24 PM
Will there be any peace bonding stations at Clockwork Alchemy? I was planning on picking up my badge there and figured it'd be easier to get my prop peace bonded there instead of going to Fanime.
Yes, there will be a peace-bonding station at Clockwork Alchemy, and peace-bonding there is valid for Fanime. (I asked the CA con chair). Ask any of the Bobbies (CA's Rovers) or at any info desk for directions.
I am considering going as slade wilson from arrow. I have airsoft gear including guns I would like to bring. My questions is if I gut the internals, thereby rendering them useless for the convention. Will that pass the Prop and Weap Policy? If not, is there anything I can do to further modify or perhaps replace up to 50 percent of the external parts, assuming all internals will be removed.
following the requirements of below, it should be fine at peacebonding:
-gut the internals and show its gutted
-nothing on it moves (no sliders, etc.)
-orange tip on the barrel
least, thats what they told me last year on my parker cosplay.
Hi there! My sister is planning to cosplay as one of the Organization XIII members in Kingdom Hearts, and we bought a keyblade specifically for this purpose; it's the standard keyblade that Sora uses. But after reading the weapons policy, I have doubts on whether it will be allowed or not. And the chain near the handle seems to be quote longer than normal, but we could easily trim it in size. Will the keyblade be able to pass through peacebonding according to the props and weapons policy?
Hi there,
I'm planning on a couple of cosplays that involve gun props.
I have a small group planning to cosplay characters from Psycho Pass and carry "dominator" guns made of either medium-density fibreboard or foam. Here a couple of reference pictures from the anime: http://www.entravity.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/psycho-pass-21-4-dominator.jpg
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--_9YQ2xvb--/186s4j7w4xmujjpg.jpg
Since these "guns" will be rather apparently fantasy props based on their shape and weight (they don't even really have a "barrel" for any possible projectile), would it be possible to carry our replicas without painting the tips orange? We are also planning to add a switch to light up some LEDs for the parts that glow blue, and putting the switch in the trigger was a consideration. Would this be alright?
My other concern is with a cosplay of Akemi Homura from Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. I was hoping to carry a replica of one of the guns she uses in the anime (the Beretta 92FS). I found and bought an airsoft gun with an orange tip prior to reading the rules regarding projectiles. (A terrible oversight, I know.) I was wondering if it would be legal to carry this prop gun if I were to render it inoperable as a projectile weapon (eg. gutting it, plugging the barrel, and/or jamming the trigger). If this isn't possible, would you or anyone else have suggestions for what would work as an acceptable substitute while still sticking to the character?
Thanks!
Cosplay question: the policy specifically mentions that all attendees must where shoes at all times, but what about sandals, more specifically waraji, the traditional Japanese woven sandals, for a Sanjuro cosplay?
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn307/vashmsw/waraji/waraji.jpg
Quote from: guyver20 on May 01, 2015, 05:31:58 PM
I am considering going as slade wilson from arrow. I have airsoft gear including guns I would like to bring. My questions is if I gut the internals, thereby rendering them useless for the convention. Will that pass the Prop and Weap Policy? If not, is there anything I can do to further modify or perhaps replace up to 50 percent of the external parts, assuming all internals will be removed.
Our Official Policy is that you are not allowed to bring airsoft weapons to Fanime. The reason isn't just the ability to fire, its also how realistic the weapons are. So if you modify it enough so it no longer works (has moving parts) and no longer looks real, then it should be ok. To be safe, I would make it look really fake as not be allowed to have it. I have been recomending people make cardboard weapons instead since that looks fake.
Quote from: NF_Kaonashi on May 03, 2015, 03:49:27 PM
Hi there! My sister is planning to cosplay as one of the Organization XIII members in Kingdom Hearts, and we bought a keyblade specifically for this purpose; it's the standard keyblade that Sora uses. But after reading the weapons policy, I have doubts on whether it will be allowed or not. And the chain near the handle seems to be quote longer than normal, but we could easily trim it in size. Will the keyblade be able to pass through peacebonding according to the props and weapons policy?
The 2 main concerns about Key Blades are the chain length/weight, and what the blade is made out of. If the chain is short (around a foot) and is made out of a light plastic, it should be ok. If the blade is made out of a plastic that is not sharp, it should also be ok. If you bought a metal keyblade, it is not allowed.
Quote from: Kamonohashi on May 05, 2015, 01:51:02 PM
Hi there,
I'm planning on a couple of cosplays that involve gun props.
I have a small group planning to cosplay characters from Psycho Pass and carry "dominator" guns made of either medium-density fibreboard or foam. Here a couple of reference pictures from the anime: http://www.entravity.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/psycho-pass-21-4-dominator.jpg
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--_9YQ2xvb--/186s4j7w4xmujjpg.jpg
Since these "guns" will be rather apparently fantasy props based on their shape and weight (they don't even really have a "barrel" for any possible projectile), would it be possible to carry our replicas without painting the tips orange? We are also planning to add a switch to light up some LEDs for the parts that glow blue, and putting the switch in the trigger was a consideration. Would this be alright?
My other concern is with a cosplay of Akemi Homura from Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. I was hoping to carry a replica of one of the guns she uses in the anime (the Beretta 92FS). I found and bought an airsoft gun with an orange tip prior to reading the rules regarding projectiles. (A terrible oversight, I know.) I was wondering if it would be legal to carry this prop gun if I were to render it inoperable as a projectile weapon (eg. gutting it, plugging the barrel, and/or jamming the trigger). If this isn't possible, would you or anyone else have suggestions for what would work as an acceptable substitute while still sticking to the character?
Thanks!
Let me start with the first prop is question. I agree that the profile is fake enough to allow you to carry it. I would still need you to paint the tip. I am sorry, this applies to all props that look anything like projectile weapons. The LEDs are ok, as long as they do not flash, and are not too bright. Think of a cheap flash light level of brightness.
As for the 2nd prop, that is not allowed. Airsoft is general is banned, and since a Beretta is a real gun, its another reason its not allowed. If you want another foam weapon with the same profile, but color it a bright safety color, I would allow that. You can also make something out of cardboard.
Quote from: TheMBear on May 05, 2015, 03:19:47 PM
Cosplay question: the policy specifically mentions that all attendees must where shoes at all times, but what about sandals, more specifically waraji, the traditional Japanese woven sandals, for a Sanjuro cosplay?
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn307/vashmsw/waraji/waraji.jpg
As long as you have something on the soles of your feet, you are good to go. So those sandals work perfectly.
Hello,
Seeing that there was a military cosplay turned down in the first page has me wondering about my own that I've worn to the Con on consecutive years, and I always ask here every year anyway. Its a standard woodland camo, or BDU(long discontinued in favor of ACUs our current military uniform) with a tactical vest, leg holster and helmet.There are no wording or patches.
Just in case, heres the criteria I was told to follow from last year:
Nothing in the holster at all.
Nothing in the pockets of the vest or else it will be too realistic, exception: pocket near the left shoulder was for cell phones and that was allowed.
and here's a picture of me in said outfit from last year(with Home Made Kazoku): http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb143/KageNinja75/Fanime%202014/DSC04571_zps0f7c42b0.jpg
Quote from: kage on May 05, 2015, 11:07:38 PM
Hello,
Seeing that there was a military cosplay turned down in the first page has me wondering about my own that I've worn to the Con on consecutive years, and I always ask here every year anyway. Its a standard woodland camo, or BDU(long discontinued in favor of ACUs our current military uniform) with a tactical vest, leg holster and helmet.There are no wording or patches.
Just in case, heres the criteria I was told to follow from last year:
Nothing in the holster at all.
Nothing in the pockets of the vest or else it will be too realistic, exception: pocket near the left shoulder was for cell phones and that was allowed.
and here's a picture of me in said outfit from last year(with Home Made Kazoku): http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb143/KageNinja75/Fanime%202014/DSC04571_zps0f7c42b0.jpg
Hi there!
Your cosplay is just fine! Thanking for coming to us for your questions. In regards to your outfit, there shouldn't be any problems as long as there are no official patches, insignia, or lettering that could imply or mistaken for official. Any other questions, please feel free to email us at
[email protected]!
2015 Rovers Department Second
I guess I should ask just to be sure:
I saw a rocket launcher get approved in an earlier post.
I carry this thing in bat mode most of the time and turn it into launcher mode only for photos.
It is made of PVC, ABS, (other plastics) foam & cardboard. It's ~5' long. The PVC makes it a bit on the heavy side (~7 lbs).
It passed peace-bonding at AoD & KrakenCon.
Bat mode:
https://www.facebook.com/TBlazePhotography/photos/t.100000073155074/940837029283956
Launcher mode:
https://www.facebook.com/delivery.kami.cao/photos/t.100000073155074/337761239751976
The rules state "no bows" how about a bow made out of paper mache and strung with wire so that there is no tention? Also the arrow i have will have a foam tip, 2013 that was ok'd since a foam tip is alot safer than a dowl with no tip. But wouldnt matter since the bow cant have any tention whatsoever.
http://lonesn1per.tumblr.com/post/114423175693/far-cry-4-primitive-bow-arrow-with-detachable
Quote from: Korium9 on May 06, 2015, 11:11:34 AM
I guess I should ask just to be sure:
I saw a rocket launcher get approved in an earlier post.
I carry this thing in bat mode most of the time and turn it into launcher mode only for photos.
It is made of PVC, ABS, (other plastics) foam & cardboard. It's ~5' long. The PVC makes it a bit on the heavy side (~7 lbs).
It passed peace-bonding at AoD & KrakenCon.
Bat mode:
https://www.facebook.com/TBlazePhotography/photos/t.100000073155074/940837029283956
Launcher mode:
https://www.facebook.com/delivery.kami.cao/photos/t.100000073155074/337761239751976
Hi Korium!
So from the sounds of it, it sounds amazing and an excellent prop to peacebond! However, the links that you have posted are not viewable, so I have no idea how it looks like.
Quote from: loner on May 06, 2015, 11:12:15 PM
The rules state "no bows" how about a bow made out of paper mache and strung with wire so that there is no tention? Also the arrow i have will have a foam tip, 2013 that was ok'd since a foam tip is alot safer than a dowl with no tip. But wouldnt matter since the bow cant have any tention whatsoever.
http://lonesn1per.tumblr.com/post/114423175693/far-cry-4-primitive-bow-arrow-with-detachable
Hello Ioner!
Paper mache bow and the arrow(s) are totally OK! The wire part, however, is a bit on the iffy side. Depending on the gauge (thickness), it may or may not be allowed. This is a call that has to be made seeing the prop and can be made by our rover staff at the convention. Please bring your prop to our peacebonding station located at our rover base, and we can analyze it from there. Please bring string as a back up just in case the wire is unfit. One way to help make sure the wire can be accepted would be to permanently affix the wire to the bow. Gluing or soldering would make it so the wire could not be removed during the con and would help it be con appropriate. Also, if you have multiple arrows with you they should be secured in a quiver. It is fine to have a single arrow out for use as a prop.
Thank you, ill bring twine with me just in case. Although i tried it with the twine beforehand and it held more tension than the wire did. The quiver has about 1 inch arrows hot glued onto some foam to give an a illusion of multiple full sized arrows in a quiver,ill still bring that in as well. The single arrow ill be carrying around is full sized with a craft foam tip. I just want to make sure im doing the right thing, im afraid if i glue or solder it permanently to the bow and one of the peacebonding people happend to find it unacceptable, i wouldnt be able to modify it to follow rules since itll be permanently affixed to the bow.
Quote from: Waffles on May 07, 2015, 01:27:49 AM
Quote from: Korium9 on May 06, 2015, 11:11:34 AM
I guess I should ask just to be sure:
I saw a rocket launcher get approved in an earlier post.
I carry this thing in bat mode most of the time and turn it into launcher mode only for photos.
It is made of PVC, ABS, (other plastics) foam & cardboard. It's ~5' long. The PVC makes it a bit on the heavy side (~7 lbs).
It passed peace-bonding at AoD & KrakenCon.
Bat mode:
https://www.facebook.com/TBlazePhotography/photos/t.100000073155074/940837029283956
Launcher mode:
https://www.facebook.com/delivery.kami.cao/photos/t.100000073155074/337761239751976
Hi Korium!
So from the sounds of it, it sounds amazing and an excellent prop to peacebond! However, the links that you have posted are not viewable, so I have no idea how it looks like.
Let's try these:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=988719341140495&l=aa98150594 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=988719341140495&l=aa98150594)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=988721384473624&l=54832c6c19 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=988721384473624&l=54832c6c19)
Edit: alternately, I don't have many cosplays so it can be found pretty quickly on my FB page:
https://www.facebook.com/chris.horii (https://www.facebook.com/chris.horii)
Hi, I'm doing a Star lord cosplay and was planning on painting nerf guns for his blasters. I was curious if while removing the ability to fire darts, would leaving the spring loaded bit that changes how it looks be ok? It changes it from first image to the second in the following picture.
http://www.entertainmentearth.com/images/AUTOIMAGES/HMVA7910lg.jpg
I intend on leaving the orange tips on still, as well.
Quote from: loner on May 07, 2015, 06:50:55 AM
Thank you, ill bring twine with me just in case. Although i tried it with the twine beforehand and it held more tension than the wire did. The quiver has about 1 inch arrows hot glued onto some foam to give an a illusion of multiple full sized arrows in a quiver,ill still bring that in as well. The single arrow ill be carrying around is full sized with a craft foam tip. I just want to make sure im doing the right thing, im afraid if i glue or solder it permanently to the bow and one of the peacebonding people happend to find it unacceptable, i wouldnt be able to modify it to follow rules since itll be permanently affixed to the bow.
Not a problem Ioner! When you (decide) to use the twine instead, just make sure to glue it on LOOSELY, that way it guarantees any tension on the bow. Honestly, just based on the pictures/ the original wire looks good. But then again, it's hard to determine just throughout photo alone. Either way, come prepared! :D
Quote from: Korium9 on May 07, 2015, 08:02:32 AM
Quote from: Waffles on May 07, 2015, 01:27:49 AM
Quote from: Korium9 on May 06, 2015, 11:11:34 AM
I guess I should ask just to be sure:
I saw a rocket launcher get approved in an earlier post.
I carry this thing in bat mode most of the time and turn it into launcher mode only for photos.
It is made of PVC, ABS, (other plastics) foam & cardboard. It's ~5' long. The PVC makes it a bit on the heavy side (~7 lbs).
It passed peace-bonding at AoD & KrakenCon.
Bat mode:
https://www.facebook.com/TBlazePhotography/photos/t.100000073155074/940837029283956
Launcher mode:
https://www.facebook.com/delivery.kami.cao/photos/t.100000073155074/337761239751976
Hi Korium!
So from the sounds of it, it sounds amazing and an excellent prop to peacebond! However, the links that you have posted are not viewable, so I have no idea how it looks like.
Let's try these:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=988719341140495&l=aa98150594 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=988719341140495&l=aa98150594)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=988721384473624&l=54832c6c19 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=988721384473624&l=54832c6c19)
Edit: alternately, I don't have many cosplays so it can be found pretty quickly on my FB page:
https://www.facebook.com/chris.horii (https://www.facebook.com/chris.horii)
Hello again Korium! Can I just say, YOUR PROP LOOKS FREAKING AMAZING! The one thing I have to add about your prop, since you did mention it can alternate into a rocket launcher, it must have an orange tip since it also a gun prop. Besides that, your prop is good for con! I look forward to seeing this at con, and hopefully I can be the one to peacebond it myself!
Quote from: Tweeters on May 07, 2015, 11:16:50 PM
Hi, I'm doing a Star lord cosplay and was planning on painting nerf guns for his blasters. I was curious if while removing the ability to fire darts, would leaving the spring loaded bit that changes how it looks be ok? It changes it from first image to the second in the following picture.
http://www.entertainmentearth.com/images/AUTOIMAGES/HMVA7910lg.jpg
I intend on leaving the orange tips on still, as well.
Hi Tweeters!
Unfortunately because we have a strict policy on movable parts, you have to keep it locked into one position or the other. It should not be able to change while at con. Painting it is fine as well as long as you keep the orange safety tip. I hope this clarifies everything, and please do not hesitate to ask any more questions.
Sorry for not answering these ASAP! You know those things called jobs, pffffft! Pesky annoying things.
<3
I will be cosplaying as Satone Shichimiya from Love, Chunnibyo, and Other Delusions - Heart Throb and she has a scepter/wand kind of weapon. Is that allowed, I know I have to get it bonded but I just want to make sure I can bring it first lol. Ty! ^_^
Hi! Aelia approved these props last year via the forums (http://forums.fanime.com/index.php/topic,16577.msg476070.html#msg476070) and we had absolutely no problems at the convention with peacebonding and gatherings but I wanted to make 100% sure again.
A really big drill. All foam (with the exception of the hose which is thin plastic tubing) and everything is completely static as the hose can be magnetically attached or removed - it doesn't fire or anything like that - no triggers, bright colors.
http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2014/059/4/c/taizo_hori_s_p3_drill___complete__dig_dug__by_insanedavid-d78dbk5.jpg
An ion cannon - ABS, PVC and foam, no triggers, grips are from handheld packing tape dispensers, everything is completely static, bright and shiny.
http://th09.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2014/091/9/5/masuyo_tobi_s_multi_function_ion_cannon__baraduke__by_insanedavid-d7co1dx.jpg
And with full costumes - http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2014/270/e/1/e17173e48b8d95cb38a65d206d512916-d80s890.jpg
Thanks!
Quote from: p4ranoia on May 09, 2015, 03:42:21 PM
I will be cosplaying as Satone Shichimiya from Love, Chunnibyo, and Other Delusions - Heart Throb and she has a scepter/wand kind of weapon. Is that allowed, I know I have to get it bonded but I just want to make sure I can bring it first lol. Ty! ^_^
Hello P4ranoia!
The scepter is totally fine to use as a prop as long as it is not made out of live steel of any sort. I noticed that it has a couple of "gems", which I know that this can lead cosplayers to use glass for their props. Please make sure that if you are making/buying this prop, that it is made out of plastic instead. So overall, NO LIVE STEEL and NO GLASS. Other than that, you are good to go!
Quote from: InsaneDavid on May 09, 2015, 06:39:26 PM
Hi! Aelia approved these props last year via the forums (http://forums.fanime.com/index.php/topic,16577.msg476070.html#msg476070) and we had absolutely no problems at the convention with peacebonding and gatherings but I wanted to make 100% sure again.
A really big drill. All foam (with the exception of the hose which is thin plastic tubing) and everything is completely static as the hose can be magnetically attached or removed - it doesn't fire or anything like that - no triggers, bright colors.
http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2014/059/4/c/taizo_hori_s_p3_drill___complete__dig_dug__by_insanedavid-d78dbk5.jpg
An ion cannon - ABS, PVC and foam, no triggers, grips are from handheld packing tape dispensers, everything is completely static, bright and shiny.
http://th09.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2014/091/9/5/masuyo_tobi_s_multi_function_ion_cannon__baraduke__by_insanedavid-d7co1dx.jpg
And with full costumes - http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2014/270/e/1/e17173e48b8d95cb38a65d206d512916-d80s890.jpg
Thanks!
Hi InsaneDavid!
I can tell you put so much effort into this prop. The drill is ok for peacebonding. My one small (very small) thing I have to point out is that for your gun prop, the tip needs to be altered to our current peacebonding rule: Gun-like props must have a non-removable orange tip at the end of the barrel which is visible from the side and which extends at least one inch up the barrel, or they must be painted all over in a bright safety color''. From the pictures, the tips are only halfway painted and only about 1/2 inch long.
Besides the orange tip, you should be fine with your props! (BTW, I really love your props!)
Quote from: Waffles on May 10, 2015, 03:09:47 PMHi InsaneDavid!
I can tell you put so much effort into this prop. The drill is ok for peacebonding. My one small (very small) thing I have to point out is that for your gun prop, the tip needs to be altered to our current peacebonding rule: Gun-like props must have a non-removable orange tip at the end of the barrel which is visible from the side and which extends at least one inch up the barrel, or they must be painted all over in a bright safety color''. From the pictures, the tips are only halfway painted and only about 1/2 inch long.
Besides the orange tip, you should be fine with your props! (BTW, I really love your props!)
Thanks for taking a moment to respond! I'll paint the emitters (the part with the paint on the tip) on the ion cannon orange the rest of the way to comply with 2015 rules.
EDIT: Fixed.
Out of curiosity, is peacebonding going to be using the soft adhesive wristband type tags for peacebonding identification like last year rather than standard zip ties? Those were great, WAY more comfortable on the hand when tagged around a handle.
Thanks again.
Quote from: Waffles on May 10, 2015, 03:09:47 PM
Quote from: p4ranoia on May 09, 2015, 03:42:21 PM
I will be cosplaying as Satone Shichimiya from Love, Chunnibyo, and Other Delusions - Heart Throb and she has a scepter/wand kind of weapon. Is that allowed, I know I have to get it bonded but I just want to make sure I can bring it first lol. Ty! ^_^
Hello P4ranoia!
The scepter is totally fine to use as a prop as long as it is not made out of live steel of any sort. I noticed that it has a couple of "gems", which I know that this can lead cosplayers to use glass for their props. Please make sure that if you are making/buying this prop, that it is made out of plastic instead. So overall, NO LIVE STEEL and NO GLASS. Other than that, you are good to go!
Quote from: InsaneDavid on May 09, 2015, 06:39:26 PM
Hi! Aelia approved these props last year via the forums (http://forums.fanime.com/index.php/topic,16577.msg476070.html#msg476070) and we had absolutely no problems at the convention with peacebonding and gatherings but I wanted to make 100% sure again.
A really big drill. All foam (with the exception of the hose which is thin plastic tubing) and everything is completely static as the hose can be magnetically attached or removed - it doesn't fire or anything like that - no triggers, bright colors.
http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2014/059/4/c/taizo_hori_s_p3_drill___complete__dig_dug__by_insanedavid-d78dbk5.jpg
An ion cannon - ABS, PVC and foam, no triggers, grips are from handheld packing tape dispensers, everything is completely static, bright and shiny.
http://th09.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2014/091/9/5/masuyo_tobi_s_multi_function_ion_cannon__baraduke__by_insanedavid-d7co1dx.jpg
And with full costumes - http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2014/270/e/1/e17173e48b8d95cb38a65d206d512916-d80s890.jpg
Thanks!
Hi InsaneDavid!
I can tell you put so much effort into this prop. The drill is ok for peacebonding. My one small (very small) thing I have to point out is that for your gun prop, the tip needs to be altered to our current peacebonding rule: Gun-like props must have a non-removable orange tip at the end of the barrel which is visible from the side and which extends at least one inch up the barrel, or they must be painted all over in a bright safety color''. From the pictures, the tips are only halfway painted and only about 1/2 inch long.
Besides the orange tip, you should be fine with your props! (BTW, I really love your props!)
Awesome! Tysm! And yeah my friend and I are making it out of Styrofoam and using fake stick on gems.
Hello!
Me and a buddy of mine were going to cosplay some of the members of the Payday gang, and we wanted to know if a weapon like prop like this would pass.
(https://40.media.tumblr.com/58030c3e22d9f02e1156955d6c44b0cb/tumblr_no6io33eXC1sikq5po1_540.jpg)
Its trigger will be removed, wire stripped, and even before, all it could do was make noise. Both weapons would have a covered cap, and we even spraypainted an extra inch of orange safety paint on the muzzle. Would this be okay? Can it be modified in any way to make it okay?
If not, it mentions in the lead post that a nonfunctional NERF gun can be used and painted as long as there is at least 1 inch of orange painted barrel. Is that still applicable for the 2015 con?
We have alternative non weapon props (fake bundle of money) if need be, and thank you!
Hi! I'm planning to cosplay as Kagura from Gintama, so I've bought a Japanese umbrella. I just want to check in with you guys whether this is appropriate or not. Thanks.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00706UGV0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Since you guys are so specific about military cosplays, I've got a quick question. My Daedalus crew flight suit (from Stargate Atlantis) has patches, but they're all 100% fictional. There are no alphabet soup acronyms anywhere on any of those patches. I'll have a holster, but no weapon in it at any time.
It's basically this (http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/stargate/images/0/0d/Steven_Caldwell.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20090118065408) but my nametape just has my last name on it and lol I'm a woman.
We cool? I haven't packed yet so I can leave it out if you guys aren't cool with it, but I've seen guys in full ACU battle dress in the con center the past couple years so looking like a space-themed reject from Top Gun wouldn't be that terrible, right? :P
Quote from: InsaneDavid on May 10, 2015, 04:23:46 PM
Out of curiosity, is peacebonding going to be using the soft adhesive wristband type tags for peacebonding identification like last year rather than standard zip ties? Those were great, WAY more comfortable on the hand when tagged around a handle.
Thanks again.
Absolutely! We received a huge positive respond last year with our new peacbonds, and we plan on using them again for this year!
Quote from: Lolzman87 on May 11, 2015, 02:36:54 AM
Hello!
Me and a buddy of mine were going to cosplay some of the members of the Payday gang, and we wanted to know if a weapon like prop like this would pass.
(https://40.media.tumblr.com/58030c3e22d9f02e1156955d6c44b0cb/tumblr_no6io33eXC1sikq5po1_540.jpg)
Its trigger will be removed, wire stripped, and even before, all it could do was make noise. Both weapons would have a covered cap, and we even spraypainted an extra inch of orange safety paint on the muzzle. Would this be okay? Can it be modified in any way to make it okay?
If not, it mentions in the lead post that a nonfunctional NERF gun can be used and painted as long as there is at least 1 inch of orange painted barrel. Is that still applicable for the 2015 con?
We have alternative non weapon props (fake bundle of money) if need be, and thank you!
Hello Lolzman87!
If you do exactly what you have posted, then yes. Your prop is totally passable for con. Our main concerns for gun props has always been that it would be too realistic for our attendees to realize the difference, and creating a somewhat uncomfortable environment. The faker, the better. HOWEVER, I would bring back up props (the Nerf guns you where mentioning), just in case something happens. Pictures look different compared to the real thing. The photo clearly makes it look fake, but that could be a different story once it is brought to peacebonding. Please let us know with any other concerns or questions!
Quote from: AigooDantat on May 11, 2015, 09:23:56 PM
Hi! I'm planning to cosplay as Kagura from Gintama, so I've bought a Japanese umbrella. I just want to check in with you guys whether this is appropriate or not. Thanks.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00706UGV0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Hi AigooDantat!
IT IS SO APPROPRIATE AND OK, THAT I AM NOW SAVING THIS ON MY ACCOUNT AND BUYING IT LATER!!!! <3
(Yes, you can peacebond the umbrella!.)
Quote from: Fashwiing on May 12, 2015, 08:00:09 PM
Since you guys are so specific about military cosplays, I've got a quick question. My Daedalus crew flight suit (from Stargate Atlantis) has patches, but they're all 100% fictional. There are no alphabet soup acronyms anywhere on any of those patches. I'll have a holster, but no weapon in it at any time.
It's basically this (http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/stargate/images/0/0d/Steven_Caldwell.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20090118065408) but my nametape just has my last name on it and lol I'm a woman.
We cool? I haven't packed yet so I can leave it out if you guys aren't cool with it, but I've seen guys in full ACU battle dress in the con center the past couple years so looking like a space-themed reject from Top Gun wouldn't be that terrible, right? :P
Hello Fashwiing!
Your suit is acceptable for cosplay! Just make sure you do not have anything labeled that would be associated (and/or acronyms) with the word POLICE, MILITARY, PD, FD or of anything with similar law enforcement.
Thank you everybody for your patience and I hope this helps clear/answer your questions!
Quote from: Waffles
Thank you everybody for your patience and I hope this helps clear/answer your questions!
Thank you for your professional and prompt responses! :)
Would a small kitchen knife, made of either cardboard or plastic(obviously not live steel) need to be peace bonded?
Quote from: piggyflyer on May 16, 2015, 06:48:12 PM
Would a small kitchen knife, made of either cardboard or plastic(obviously not live steel) need to be peace bonded?
Absolutely. Any item brought to con with the intention of being used as a prop must be peacebonded.
is it acceptable to ask the ones peace bonding a weapon to not make the bond too tight if a weapon can get damaged easily if it's bonded too tight?
Quote from: OtakuAngel87 on May 16, 2015, 11:51:29 PM
is it acceptable to ask the ones peace bonding a weapon to not make the bond too tight if a weapon can get damaged easily if it's bonded too tight?
We strive the best we can to accomadate and respect our attendees props. This is an acceptable request, just please be aware that we still have to try and make sure that the peacebond stays secured.
Quote from: Waffles on May 17, 2015, 01:32:15 AM
Quote from: OtakuAngel87 on May 16, 2015, 11:51:29 PM
is it acceptable to ask the ones peace bonding a weapon to not make the bond too tight if a weapon can get damaged easily if it's bonded too tight?
We strive the best we can to accomadate and respect our attendees props. This is an acceptable request, just please be aware that we still have to try and make sure that the peacebond stays secured.
that is totally understandable since that's the purpose of having peacebonds is to make sure they're staying on the props. thanks for the response.
Hey quick question.
I will be cosplaying as Gordon Freeman from Half-Life 2. His weapon in the game is a crowbar. The prop I use is a real crowbar. Would I be able to bring this to the con? Here's an attached image of it. It's an essential for this costume so I need to know just in case I need to cast a fake one before the con this weekend.
(https://forums.fanime.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs8.postimg.org%2Flvh7qy5lt%2F13889301443_3d867be796.jpg&hash=8bd84efe730adfc2a4e0c2f9885064dbcfe1184d) (http://postimg.org/image/lvh7qy5lt/)
Quote from: TheRealFreeman on May 20, 2015, 10:51:51 PM
Hey quick question.
I will be cosplaying as Gordon Freeman from Half-Life 2. His weapon in the game is a crowbar. The prop I use is a real crowbar. Would I be able to bring this to the con? Here's an attached image of it. It's an essential for this costume so I need to know just in case I need to cast a fake one before the con this weekend.
(https://forums.fanime.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs8.postimg.org%2Flvh7qy5lt%2F13889301443_3d867be796.jpg&hash=8bd84efe730adfc2a4e0c2f9885064dbcfe1184d) (http://postimg.org/image/lvh7qy5lt/)
Hi TheRealFreeman!
A real crowbar is not allowed at con. We have a very strict "no-live steel" policy for our convention. Sorry!
Can I please have the rule about wheeled props explained to me? I have never seen a written rule about this and have seen several large scaled props using wheels before. I figured putting a large item on wheels would help the situation with transport and getting through crowds but was shocked when we were told no wheels.
Next year, all fake guns have to be brightly colored. (http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2014/08/27/bill-requiring-toy-guns-to-be-brightly-colored-passes-california-assembly-spurred-by-andy-lopez-shooting/) The new California law takes effect January 1, 2016.
CA penal code sec. 20175, permitted colors for fake guns: (http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=pen&group=20001-21000&file=20150-20180) "The entire exterior surface of the imitation firearm is white, bright red, bright orange, bright yellow, bright green, bright blue, bright pink, or bright purple, either singly or as the predominant color in combination with other colors in any pattern, or the entire device is constructed of transparent or translucent material that permits unmistakable observation of the device's complete contents. Merely having an orange tip as provided in federal law and regulations does not satisfy this requirement. The entire surface must be colored or transparent or translucent."
Quote from: aetherltd on May 31, 2015, 10:53:37 AM
Next year, all fake guns have to be brightly colored. (http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2014/08/27/bill-requiring-toy-guns-to-be-brightly-colored-passes-california-assembly-spurred-by-andy-lopez-shooting/) The new California law takes effect January 1, 2016.
CA penal code sec. 20175, permitted colors for fake guns: (http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=pen&group=20001-21000&file=20150-20180) "The entire exterior surface of the imitation firearm is white, bright red, bright orange, bright yellow, bright green, bright blue, bright pink, or bright purple, either singly or as the predominant color in combination with other colors in any pattern, or the entire device is constructed of transparent or translucent material that permits unmistakable observation of the device's complete contents. Merely having an orange tip as provided in federal law and regulations does not satisfy this requirement. The entire surface must be colored or transparent or translucent."
Reading over the text of the law and after looking at a post made to the Fanime Facebook page it looks like this does not apply to Fanime as it qualities as an exception under section 20175 item g "The imitation firearm is used at a fair, exhibition, exposition, or other similar activity for which a permit has been obtained from a local or state government." So really the key item to note here is that *hint to staff* FANIME WILL HAVE TO OBTAIN A PERMIT!! *hint to staff* (Which hopefully they will do so, or notify us in some other official capacity what impact this will have on the convention)
This whole upcoming law is a big mess in my opinion but that stretches outside of being FanimeCon peacebonding specific.
One thing this will open up is those who hang out in the areas surrounding the convention center with FanimeCon non-approved weapon props (airsoft firearms with or without orange tips for example) will now be violating California law. No more "I'm not badged and I'm not inside so it doesn't matter." I'm sure staff will make this absolutely clear in the policies information for 2016.
I'm no lawyer, but isn't there a difference between "Imitation Firearm" and "Prop weapon?" e.g., if you make a toy based on an M-16 or an AR-15 that's an imitation firearm, but if you paint a Nerf weapon brown and silver, does that mean it's a prop weapon and doesn't fall under these regulations? The news article linked even uses the term "certain replica guns."
Quote from: Admiral Donuts on June 04, 2015, 03:51:29 PM
I'm no lawyer, but isn't there a difference between "Imitation Firearm" and "Prop weapon?" e.g., if you make a toy based on an M-16 or an AR-15 that's an imitation firearm, but if you paint a Nerf weapon brown and silver, does that mean it's a prop weapon and doesn't fall under these regulations? The news article linked even uses the term "certain replica guns."
Sec. 12550:
"Imitation firearm" means any BB device, toy gun, replica of a firearm, or other device that is so substantially similar in coloration and overall appearance to an existing firearm as to lead a reasonable person to perceive that the device is a firearm." So if it looks like a gun...
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/c1/a1/a4/c1a1a4691f6b686eff8c7e39e8becfd0.jpg)
Might be a problem.
Quote from: pitin on June 04, 2015, 12:17:44 PM
Quote from: aetherltd on May 31, 2015, 10:53:37 AM
Next year, all fake guns have to be brightly colored. (http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2014/08/27/bill-requiring-toy-guns-to-be-brightly-colored-passes-california-assembly-spurred-by-andy-lopez-shooting/) The new California law takes effect January 1, 2016.
CA penal code sec. 20175, permitted colors for fake guns: (http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=pen&group=20001-21000&file=20150-20180) "The entire exterior surface of the imitation firearm is white, bright red, bright orange, bright yellow, bright green, bright blue, bright pink, or bright purple, either singly or as the predominant color in combination with other colors in any pattern, or the entire device is constructed of transparent or translucent material that permits unmistakable observation of the device's complete contents. Merely having an orange tip as provided in federal law and regulations does not satisfy this requirement. The entire surface must be colored or transparent or translucent."
Reading over the text of the law and after looking at a post made to the Fanime Facebook page it looks like this does not apply to Fanime as it qualities as an exception under section 20175 item g "The imitation firearm is used at a fair, exhibition, exposition, or other similar activity for which a permit has been obtained from a local or state government." So really the key item to note here is that *hint to staff* FANIME WILL HAVE TO OBTAIN A PERMIT!! *hint to staff* (Which hopefully they will do so, or notify us in some other official capacity what impact this will have on the convention)
Actually, does the convention or the individual w/ the imitation firearm have to get the permit?
And does this apply only to imitation firearms or gun-shaped props made out of foam?
Quote from: aetherltd on June 04, 2015, 11:25:30 PM
Sec. 12550: "Imitation firearm" means any BB device, toy gun, replica of a firearm, or other device that is so substantially similar in coloration and overall appearance to an existing firearm as to lead a reasonable person to perceive that the device is a firearm." So if it looks like a gun...
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/c1/a1/a4/c1a1a4691f6b686eff8c7e39e8becfd0.jpg)
Might be a problem.
Well, that one's obvious. What I'm wondering about (more out of curiousity than anything) is where something like this might fall:
(https://forums.fanime.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FrhIdU9E.jpg&hash=71ed11487123a3d6896ee4a2383886a3a3f1411f)
Quote from: Admiral Donuts on June 05, 2015, 12:17:30 AM
Quote from: aetherltd on June 04, 2015, 11:25:30 PM
Sec. 12550: "Imitation firearm" means any BB device, toy gun, replica of a firearm, or other device that is so substantially similar in coloration and overall appearance to an existing firearm as to lead a reasonable person to perceive that the device is a firearm." So if it looks like a gun...
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/c1/a1/a4/c1a1a4691f6b686eff8c7e39e8becfd0.jpg)
Might be a problem.
Well, that one's obvious. What I'm wondering about (more out of curiousity than anything) is where something like this might fall:
(https://forums.fanime.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FrhIdU9E.jpg&hash=71ed11487123a3d6896ee4a2383886a3a3f1411f)
Another problem with this law.
"
The entire exterior surface of the imitation firearm is white,
bright red, bright orange, bright yellow, bright green, bright blue,
bright pink, or bright purple, either singly or as the predominant
color in combination with other colors in any pattern, or the entire
device is constructed of transparent or translucent material that
permits unmistakable observation of the device's complete contents.
Merely having an orange tip as provided in federal law and
regulations does not satisfy this requirement.
The entire surface
must be colored or transparent or translucent."
A lot of it boils down to black is bad and everything else is up to individual discretion. What is bright? White, red, orange, yellow, green, blue, pink, purple - again, everything but black. "Singly or as the predominant color in combination with other colors in any pattern." So you can have blacks and greys but they have to be secondary in combination to another color and cannot be the predominant color. Blazing orange tips are still required in addition to all of this due to federal mandate.
Really I don't think a whole lot for FanimeCon approved stuff will change. More or less it's the same type of thing that has always been enforced: no realistic looking firearms. There's now a (somewhat poorly written) law that enforces that.
Just a thought:
Props might be important for your cosplay, but with the increased police presence and the wider distribution of con sites, I would hope every cosplayer is more aware (especially walking between sites) that your "prop" might be mistaken as "real" and you could get dropped by mistake. These rules and laws are set in place to protect you not annoy you.
Quote from: eHash on June 05, 2015, 11:54:27 AM
Just a thought:
Props might be important for your cosplay, but with the increased police presence and the wider distribution of con sites, I would hope every cosplayer is more aware (especially walking between sites) that your "prop" might be mistaken as "real" and you could get dropped by mistake. These rules and laws are set in place to protect you not annoy you.
Absolutely. My issue with how the law is worded has nothing to do with anything cosplay related.
I've been kicking around plans (for a year or so) for a future cosplay where a realistic firearm would be the character's signature prop but really didn't want to carry around a fake gun so I put it on hold until we could figure out some fully safe alternatives. Happily my girlfriend and I were able to figure out outstanding alternatives.